Prop+Var+clen or Prop+tren for cut?
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epoxy
Spartan
Personally Tren didn't shed bodyfat for me. I don't think that is what it is intended to do. It did however, make it increasingly harder to put extra body fat ON while using it. While Tren is a good choice for a cutting cycle, you have to realize that it is not going to make you shed fat from just taking it. Same with any steroid. With Anavar, it is said visceral fat can be reduced slightly from taking the drug, I've noticed a small bit, but it will ultimately come down to your diet and cardio. If you go with the stimulant route I would recommend an ECA stack over Clenbuterol, personally. Clen gives a lot of people the shakes, and it makes it hard for me to concentrate, personally. This can negatively impact your daily routine, work, sleep, etc.
Just curious but how many cylces have you run previously? If this is your first or even second, I would not advise switching over to new compounds, especially ones you have never used, at week 10. You are drawing it out for a long time, especially if you are planning on doing another 10 weeker for the cut. Personally I would say if you just cruised on the Test-E, stayed on an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to cut back on water retention (Aromasin) and threw in ECA for 3 or 4 weeks, while dropping your fats and carbs and upping your cardio, you would be able to drop a decent amount of body fat, and not spend much money at all in the process. If you find at the end of this you still arent satisfied with your bodyfat percentage, you only spent 3 or 4 weeks, take your PCT, recover, and then start a new cycle with the Prop and Tren.
Just curious but how many cylces have you run previously? If this is your first or even second, I would not advise switching over to new compounds, especially ones you have never used, at week 10. You are drawing it out for a long time, especially if you are planning on doing another 10 weeker for the cut. Personally I would say if you just cruised on the Test-E, stayed on an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to cut back on water retention (Aromasin) and threw in ECA for 3 or 4 weeks, while dropping your fats and carbs and upping your cardio, you would be able to drop a decent amount of body fat, and not spend much money at all in the process. If you find at the end of this you still arent satisfied with your bodyfat percentage, you only spent 3 or 4 weeks, take your PCT, recover, and then start a new cycle with the Prop and Tren.
DADAWG
Community Veteran
switching to prop is a waste , it doesnt cut better than eth or cyp lol.
yes i know, the reason i thought about using it was so i didnt have to wait a month before i start pct, i could start pct almost straight away.
DADAWG
Community Veteran
you could but then again the eth would be in your system for 2 more weeks anyway . its a draw lol.
yeah this is my first cycle. ive got adex for water retention so il be upping that. i willl probably do the 2week eca/ 2week clen with test-e for the cut and remove the clen if it seems to be bothering me.
thanks for the advice mate.
il probably stick to the test-e than, its a whole lot cheaper too
what dosage do you think i should run it, currently im doing 600ml/wk
Teutonic
New member
I m purebreed redneck german sumbitch..always in gear..metabolism of a 12 yr old kid...clen crushed my appetite, made me hot, shook like 6 cups of coffee would do me and wrecked what little un induced sleep I get..so yeah...it manifested itself in every part of my trying to maintain a lifter look and not look like a fitness faggot.
I m purebreed redneck german sumbitch..always in gear..metabolism of a 12 yr old kid...clen crushed my appetite, made me hot, shook like 6 cups of coffee would do me and wrecked what little un induced sleep I get..so yeah...it manifested itself in every part of my trying to maintain a lifter look and not look like a fitness faggot.
hahahah very well put. the more i hear about peoples personal experiences with clen the more i seem to hate it.
how much var would you run? should i run eca with it, ive ran eca before and had no problems.
epoxy
Spartan
For a male, running var at an acceptable dose unless you have a GOOD source, will be very expensive. I have run var at 50, 80, and 100mg, and each time the increase in mg was noticed very much so. 80 or 100 were my best results in strength gain, and fat loss in the abdominal area. But IMHO, for cutting down a few lbs, it aint worth the money. I'd save it for a REAL cutting cycle. And by real cutting cycle I mean when you are sitting at around 220-230lbs (not sure how tall you are), jacked and beefed up and ready to shred down to some serious lean muscle. For a post-bulk cutter to get yourself looking acceptable in the mirror again, it can be done with Test and ECA. I wouldn't run Clen just yet, people swear by ECA or Clen, and it's usually whichever they ran first. I actually ran Clen first, hated it, ran ECA, loved it, and I'd pick that any day.
ive checked my sources prices again and a var cycle does look extremely expensive. il probably just stick to clen/eca. have you tried ECY stack ? do you think thats better than the ECA version?
Italiano SPO
La possiedo il figlio
I'm not a big fan of Clen but I use Test and Tren regularly and get good results. I'd go that route and if you got the Var, add the Var to Test/Tren and that will be an awesome cycle. Adex is not a real good Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in my opinion. Exemestane (Aromasin) is a much better choice and is a suicide inhibitor. If you got the money to spend, I'd run the Var at 50mg ED along with Test/Tren. You'll get really good results with that, assuming your diet and cardio is in check. Good luck.
epoxy
Spartan
I've used ECA + Yohimburn (Topical Yohimbine+Caffeine) with same'ish results from just plain ole ECA, honestly. I'm all about not wasting money. I don't like to spend money on extra stuff if it isn't absolutely necessary or isn't going to provide noticeable results. I've also run EC without Aspirin. Got the same results IMHO as running it with.
