PROTEIN intake on test e??
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Protein is overrated - that's a good way to make expensive piss.
Personally I would recommend supplement 50g via protein shakes, and try and get the rest from your diet (1g per lean body mass seems about right). There's really no reason to get protein from other sources, but I always found it fun having a diverse diet in comparison to drinking lame ass chocolate shakes.
Pretty much all anabolics increase protein synthesis, an over abundance isn't really needed when on the Hercules juice.
Personally I would recommend supplement 50g via protein shakes, and try and get the rest from your diet (1g per lean body mass seems about right). There's really no reason to get protein from other sources, but I always found it fun having a diverse diet in comparison to drinking lame ass chocolate shakes.
Pretty much all anabolics increase protein synthesis, an over abundance isn't really needed when on the Hercules juice.
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1.5 for me, minimum from shakes. A post workout whey and a casein night cap. The rest in food unless its a heavy bulker then some mass gainer, or sugary protein drinks basically are employed. Just mix it up. 2 g is probably unnecessary but it's the popular opinion. I eat basically 1.5 bulk and 1 - 1.1 on cut.
Austinite
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Right, but lean body mass isn't just muscle. So I wasn't actually referencing muscle. But it makes no sense to feed fat. Especially when folks use some number to calculate intake, when everyone has different BF percentages. An overweight 350 lb man would buckle.
It's an easy calculation, most people don't have accurate BF estimates, and excess protein doesn't have the same effects as excess carbs or fat might. To say get 1-1.5g/lb BW in protein is a calculation one can do in their head in a matter of seconds. And that same argument could be used for caloric intake in general and I agree to an extent with what you're trying to get across but the important factor is the surplus or deficit of the diet in relation to your goals. An +/- 20-30g of protein isn't going to hurt progress in either case.
Austinite
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Won't hurt progress for certain periods. Extended periods of over-intake with protein can certainly cause problems. Organs would suffer and protein breakdown would be distressed. I can maintain 198 lean mass pounds with 225 grams of protein. If I took 2gr per lb, I'd be eating 450 grams of protein. I'd rather lose muscle (which wouldn't happen), before I did that. A metabolic panel would indicate issues quickly.
gaintothemax
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I eat 1.5 grams per lb of body weight its enough and all you need.
Austinite
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From all my research the effect of excess protein on kidney and liver functions is vastly overrated. A healthy athlete who's properly hydrated and has very demanding training can have an intake of upwards of 1.5g/Lb BW and not sacrifice his health. You can certainly maitain on a lower protein intake as you do and you can even gain muscle mass with that intake. But protein also has a high satiety rating and a higher TEF so filling in missing gaps with more protein can have some benefits, espcially when dieting/cutting where satiety plays a bug role in adherence to a diet and protein Needs actually increase slightly on a cut. I've seen references of 2g/lb BW as far as protein intake not negatively affecting the health of the patients, yes BUN/Creatinine changed but that doesn't necessarily mean there's a change in actual health. I wouldn't recommend 2g/lb BW since its overkill and would take away from a necessary or more optimal intake of dietary fat and carbs. Is it needed, certainly not. An intake of 1-1.5g/lb BW is sufficient for damn near everyone and it leaves a little room for "error".
I think we both can agree though that at 165lbs OP does not need to be consuming ~300g of protein lol!
gaintothemax
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All who needs? Because not everyone shares your stats
You can always adjust when you need to. 1.5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight is all you need. I have no doubt there are advanced lifters who need more or use less. 1.5 is an avg number for any lifter whose serious to start with.
You could also get by with less if you wanted. There's a lot of room to "wiggle" in when it comes to macros. Super high protein intakes are purported by supplement companies who want you to buy powder bc its convenient if someone has to take 400g of protein a day for example n
gaintothemax
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Yeah your right I've just always read 1-1.5 per lb of bodyweight and thats what I've always done.
Austinite
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Alright. I'm going to dinner in a bit, but I'll provide blood work and evidence tonight. And yes, I agree on OP.
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Austinite
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To sell more protein, duh
That's what sucks. Most people follow that lead. There are VERY few people on earth that can actually utilize the astronomical amounts of protein that some folks intake.
The only good thing I can see coming from in taking 200+ grams of protein is that protein is the most satiating macro-nutrient, and also contains the least amount of calories per gram.
Personally I probably hit those, but not intentional. I just take 2 scoops of whey(48g boost) as an insurance policy just in case my diet for the day was bad due to work, school, or lack of groceries.
