Question about a "statement from the chemist"

[krizutch8]

A source I have been looking into had this disclaimer in his price list....

"A WORD FROM OUR CHEMIST :
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Test enanthate is the largest ester of the testosterones and at a dosage of 300mg/ml there is a large percentage of
benzyl benzoate that has to be used to get it down to a homogeneous solution. This causes pain and sorness at the
injection site. So new technology has allowed us to use very little BB and still have the Enanthate ester remain stable
in the oil as a 84% homogeneous solution. This means that a gentle shake, as little as picking up your bottle fast will
stir the test back to over 99% homogeneous. This is why it is cloudy."

I was curious if anyone has heard anything like this before or if anyone can speak to the validity of the statement.

 

[UserAt204]

That's pretty funny because enanthate will hold in the oil without BB. It's one of the easiest to make for that reason. It does not crash as easily.

 

[ezred]

yeah i dunno.... but i mean... that sounds kind of like they are trying to cover for some ill-brewed shit without having to send out replacements or toss the shit they got back from the chemist.

bet they sent a note back to the chemist that read something like this:

"your fired...

p.s.
got any recommendations for a good replacement?"

 

[UserAt204]

Ha ha. Yeah that sounds about right. If you go to the chemical study forum you can see how easy test e is to make

Oil, powder, ba heat stir filter. I personally add bb but I know you can do it without at 250mg/ml and you do not have to have a large volume off BB at 300mg/ml. Actually you probably could get away with none even at that concentration.

 

[krizutch8]

yeah i dunno.... but i mean... that sounds kind of like they are trying to cover for some ill-brewed shit without having to send out replacements or toss the shit they got back from the chemist.

bet they sent a note back to the chemist that read something like this:

"your fired...

p.s.
got any recommendations for a good replacement?"

This is sort of what I was thinking. Like people kept questioning why it was cloudy and that was either the BS response the chemist gave or something BS he made up on this own. It is a pretty reputable source so I figured it could be legit but I wanted to see if anyone else had heard of such a thing.

So that being said this does not sound like a legitimate reason for it to be cloudy? I can find information about "recipes" but I can't figure out anything about how these chemicals interact that would cause or diminish cloudiness.

 

[ezred]

This is sort of what I was thinking. Like people kept questioning why it was cloudy and that was either the BS response the chemist gave or something BS he made up on this own. It is a pretty reputable source so I figured it could be legit but I wanted to see if anyone else had heard of such a thing.

So that being said this does not sound like a legitimate reason for it to be cloudy? I can find information about "recipes" but I can't figure out anything about how these chemicals interact that would cause or diminish cloudiness.

typically... it is my understanding (and i'm wrong like a billion times a day so keep that in mind) that cloudiness is caused by the solution "crashing" them saying they can keep it at 84% means that is is crashing... at least that is how i interpret it. yes, shaking it up and/or warming it up will usually diminish cloudiness.... ie bring the solution back into a disolved state. but you gotta wonder, if it crashes like that in the bottle, is it gonna crash after you inject? obiously the inside of the body is much warmer than room temperature, etc... but personally i probably wouldn't feel that comfortable injecting it. shake it up, warm it up good, it'll get clear again probably. if you want to try injecting a couple of times see how you body handles it go for it.

but yeah, sounds like a bs excuse.

 

[krizutch8]

I was thinking the same thing. I was hoping I could find someone what a little chemistry expertise that could confirm or deny the statement. As of now I am leaning away from it.

 

[UserAt204]

I already gave you the answer. Test E holds in solution with out BB. It's a bullshit statement. It was not made properly or crashed. Heat it in a pan of water until clear. Swirl it in the bottle.

 

[krizutch8]

I already gave you the answer. Test E holds in solution with out BB. It's a bullshit statement. It was not made properly or crashed. Heat it in a pan of water until clear. Swirl it in the bottle.

I appreciate it. So from your analysis it sounds like the cloudiness isn't really an issue and can be fixed by heating the bottle a bit and swirling it around? The source is a trusted source for years, I was just thinking that maybe this batch didn't turn out properly. He said he is putting 12ml in the 10ml bottles for these bottles. Should I avoid it or go ahead and get the good deals and fix the issues on my own?

 

[UserAt204]

I know who you are talking about and yes they are good. Yeah I would just heat it a little until it's clear. You can heat some water and set it in it and swirl the vial. Don't put it in boiling water or anything like that. You could even turn on a burner and just hold it above. It should be fine. After you do that one time, check it a couple days later and if it's cloudy again you may have to repeat each time you use it. There are some other ways but that should work.

Sometimes it can be painful if crashes because it will basically form crystals in the muscle. Don't worry it's ok to use but can be a pain. I'm guessing heat will work.

Let us know how it turns out and if you have anymore problems.

 

[krizutch8]

I know who you are talking about and yes they are good. Yeah I would just heat it a little until it's clear. You can heat some water and set it in it and swirl the vial. Don't put it in boiling water or anything like that. You could even turn on a burner and just hold it above. It should be fine. After you do that one time, check it a couple days later and if it's cloudy again you may have to repeat each time you use it. There are some other ways but that should work.

Sometimes it can be painful if crashes because it will basically form crystals in the muscle. Don't worry it's ok to use but can be a pain. I'm guessing heat will work.

Let us know how it turns out and if you have anymore problems.

Right on. Thanks for the advice. I actually decided to go ahead with the order because it was just too good of a deal and from what I read it sounded like this cloudiness wasn't such a big deal. Apparently my order is going to ship tomorrow and apparently I coincidently live an hour away from where it ships from so I should have it later this week. Ill keep you posted.

 

[UserAt204]

Ok bud let us know. And let us know what it looks like when you get it, maybe even post a pic but don't show the lab. Good luck.