Quick anavar question.

Imo, NOPE! Gel sucks ass!

Yes it does suck ass...

There is a fricken cult of users running var only cycles. I disagree and think they should run Test with it.

I was actually thinking about this earlier...users that are afraid of the needle and insist on running AAS could use Transdermal or oral/sublingual Test instead. It would be a step up from using just Anavar only.

Really though IMO if you are afraid of pinning you arent cut out for AAS, though I try try to keep a open mind...
 
anvar is the ONLY exception to the rule that you cannot use an oral alone. You can use it alone and you can make fantastic gains from it.

Professional athletes across the globe use var only. You have to keep in mind that test is not the holy bible of steroids. you can cycle without test. some people can't use test for numerous reasons.

Browsing through all these old posts (i know i know i shouldnt dissapear next time) I see a lot of misinformation on var. i'm gonna bump my long var rant for people to read.
 
Yes you can run it w/o test...
No you cant run it w/o test...
Things that make you go HHHMMM...again.
I ll try it in the spring..with some test..but then.. maybe not..Damn it to hell !
 
TG don't make things more complicated than they need be. You'll make excellent gains by combining var with test much better than test alone or var alone. That was the message being conveyed. The point was that you "can" take it alone, it's fine dude. it's the only oral you can take alone. if you can take it with test then by all means .... take it and enjoy the gains!
 
no dude .. dumb ass way to go about it...

DO NOT do anavar (oxandrolone) with test gel !!!

first anavar will not "shut" you down - it WILL slow down (reduce substantially) your test production.

If you want to KEEP your endogenous test production do NOT use the gel - that will SHUT DOWN your own production IMMEDIATELY. Any any exogenous testosterone use will shut down your own production worst than 100mg/day of Oxandrolone.

If you want to KEEP your test production "intact" (well, sorta) while taking VAR use HCG (Pregnyl for ex) at a low dose of 200IU's 3x/week.

That will allow your body to produce testosterone naturally.
 
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no dude .. dumb ass way to go about it...

DO NOT do anavar (oxandrolone) with test gel !!!

first anavar will not "shut" you down - it WILL slow down your test production.

If you want to KEEP your test production 100% do NOT use the gel - that will SHUT DOWN your own production IMMEDIATELY. Any any exogenous testosterone use will shut down your own production worst than 100mg/day of Oxandrolone.

If you want to KEEP your test production intact use HCG (Pregnyl for ex) at a low dose of 150IU's 3x/week.

That will allow your body to produce testosterone naturally.

good point. it's dose related.
anavar at more than 10mg will cause testicular atrophy, so keep it at 10 then.
question now is, can 10mg be enough for what you're looking for? that's a very low dose.
 
jackt...

I've run var twice alone with nice results and no testosterone - short 4 weeks - no atrophy but substantial "slow-down" ... everything came back within 1 week with aromasin/tamoxifen (either or).
 
jackt...

I've run var twice alone with nice results and no testosterone - short 4 weeks - no atrophy but substantial "slow-down" ... everything came back within 1 week with aromasin/tamoxifen (either or).

wow this is actually opening a new door for me, I've never thought about doing an oral only but I think I'm gonna give this one a shot. I'll prob go 8 wks with low dose of hcg and run clomid post cycle therapy (pct) and see how that goes...
 
oral only cycles are not great-you can do the same thing with var alone-as you can do with supps. i have a lot of friends who are scared to pin-and ive seen their reslults-a simple change in diet should be able to do the same thing.
 
If you want to KEEP your test production "intact" (well, sorta) while taking VAR use HCG (Pregnyl for ex) at a low dose of 200IU's 3x/week.

Using HCG will shut down your natural LH production. It's counter productive to your HPTA as a whole. Its fine during a cycle/cruising to keep your testes functioning. You would be better off running just enough Testosterone to keep you normal or elevated, add the HCG to keep your boys going during your cycle to speed recovery and stop the HCG before starting PCT.

Using Anavar at a dose where it doesn't effect your HPTA would be a waste.

You can make gains by running Var alone...but why not run Test with it and make even better gains?
 
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