rate my cutting cycle. am I good to go?

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unforgivin

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hello. I'm gonna start cutting soon and I thought why not do a cycle

the cycle will be:

Test E 250mg every week for 10 weeks. (it's 250mg because I'm not gonna use an AI and my bodyfat is high, so I have to keep the dose low)
50mg Anadrol every day for 6 weeks

these are ug gear btw

how does this cycle look? can I gain strength+muscle while losing bodyfat?

thanks
 
Beginner cycle sticky. I wouldn't bother with under 400 per week personally. I would also run at least 12 weeks. With E the magic really starts happening around week 4.
You'll need an AI and that's fine. Get bloodwork before during and after. What dose your pct look like for this cycle? What are your stats? At least tell how old you are and how long you've been training. And with a cutting cycle it's all about the diet....PERIOD. Tell a little about your diet plan. Also read 3js free advice for people new to cycling. This will give you a great place to start.

But again.....how old are you
 
unforgivin said:
hello. I'm gonna start cutting soon and I thought why not do a cycle

the cycle will be:

Test E 250mg every week for 10 weeks. (it's 250mg because I'm not gonna use an AI and my bodyfat is high, so I have to keep the dose low)
50mg Anadrol every day for 6 weeks

these are ug gear btw

how does this cycle look? can I gain strength+muscle while losing bodyfat?

thanks
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This Cycle is Terrible for a Cut.
Anadrol will Bloat you, especially if you are Not using an AI.
And with the High Body Fat, your Blood Pressure is going to Spike, due to the Water Retention that Anadrol causes.

250 Mg of Test a week for 10 Weeks, isn't enough Test.
And you would still need an AI, even at this Dose, again because your Body Fat Percent is High.

1st ~ Lose some Body Fat, it will make for a Better Cycle with Less Strain on your Heart/Liver/Kidneys.
Cause the Higher your Starting Body Fat %, the more Strain on your Organs.

Then just go with 400 to 500 Mg of Test per week for 12 Weeks.
And use an AI.
I Personally would use Aromasin over Arimidex, as it's a Suicidal Inhibitor.
So it makes a Permanent Bond with the Aromatase Enzyme.
Whereas Arimidex only bonds while you are taking it..................................... JP
 
unforgivin said:
why does it matter?
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You clearly haven't read the first cycle sticky. If you are young then hormone abuse is insane. Why? Well.....because depending on your age you may still be very high or still on your way up. Developmentally you have a lot left to do before your body can afford wild fluctuations in hormone levels. Almost every under age user experiences ED at some point in the cycle or during recovery. ED is tricky territory for a young man. Your dick should be made of steel well into your 30s. And then there is your reproductive future. Want kids? If you're 18 then you probably don't have a fucking clue if you want kids. You likely will change your mind many times....how many kids and when to have them.

Ok.....sexual pleasure and reproductive issues aside now, you have a lot of physical development left ahead of you. You are nowhere near your genetic max and this is dangerous territory to be abusing steroids in. Your life will likely change drastically in the next 5 years. I dont recomend doing ANYTHING that could be permanent at your age. You think you know what you want but you will change your mind several times.
Ok......sexual pleasure and reproductive and physical development ALL aside, steroids have many side effects. Do some reading. Let's pick one out and focus on the infamous roid rage for a moment. Two of the guys I knew on my high school that were cycling ended up in a lot of trouble. Their emotions were going crazy and they had a very difficult time controlling their anger. Young men have raging hormones and are learning to adapt to this condition and handle all these knew feelings, dramatically increasing these hormones makes the learning curve here much longer and more dramatic.
Planning on going to college? Want to be dealing with the emotional roller coaster that is cycling while simultaneously figuring out your new schedule and study habits and social challenges? Do you have a girlfriend? Is she ready for all this bullshit?
Plenty of young men get away with abusing steroids. I'm sure some will chime in and tell you its gonna be ok. But for every one of these lucky success stories there are a dozen nightmare stories that almost or did ruin their lives.
You've put several ideas out there on this site and EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU ARE COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG. You're not listening to what people are saying. You have no respect for the wealth of knowledge that exists here and have no intentions of taking any of the advice. You are EXACTLY the kind of young man that I'm talking about. The ones that take this leap into steroids and do it blindly and dangerously and it will likely go very very very badly for you. After reading some of your ridiculous ideas about cycling and recovery I have come to the conclusion that you are either a troll......or.......you are just not gonna listen to anything and go forward with whatever self destructive plan pops into your head. I have sons almost your age and it breaks my heart to think they could be as crazy as you. I know kids will be kids but damn......I hope they dont do anything this permanent to themselves.

Please try not to take too much offense to my words. I'm hoping to get thru to you. Diet and workout are all you need. When I was your age I could easily put on muscle whenever I pleased. It's part of being young. Enjoy it. Or......go ahead and destroy it and we will answer your questions in the trt section

Good luck young man.
 
Steroids are for protein synthesis. Muscle building and preserving. A cutting cycle doesnt cut. Different alterations and compounds have different effects and can be the opposite of what someone goals are. It's very hard to compare roids to drugs, but would you smoke meth for 3 months to lose weight? I'm not at all saying you'll be homeless and addicted to running cycles. I'm saying its serious. Possibly life changing.

There is an entire branch of "performance enhancing" drugs for fat loss that also have potentially life changing concinquenses. There is some social stigma to steroids. They are not a fix all.

If we cant make progress towards our goals natural we dont need a booster. If I cant at least gain some chub eating I have no. business running a cycle to bulk. If I'm not able to lose weight I'm probably not training enough or I'm eating to much.

If you're under 25 yrs old diet and training. If your under 20 you're on mother nature cycle and ain't no cycle like a Male puberty cycle. My 16 yr old son went from cross country to wrestling. As of now he has gained 3-5 lbs and went from 7% bf to 6% in 2 months.
 
LateStart said:
How old are you
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Well I'll welcome you to the board even though you've started a few threads. MY welcome is that you utilize this O'logy forum to better your knowledge as to using AAS as safe as Possible. SO that's one of our guides to safe cycling is to wait until a person's age is appropriate. Under 25 years of age your body is still growing. Yes too early in life. Why will you not share your age. You sound young and NOT well read in world of using Steroids.

unforgivin said:
why does it matter?
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Again if you read up you wold know this.

LateStart said:
You clearly haven't read the first cycle sticky. If you are young then hormone abuse is insane. Why? Well.....because depending on your age you may still be very high or still on your way up. Developmentally you have a lot left to do before your body can afford wild fluctuations in hormone levels. Almost every under age user experiences ED at some point in the cycle or during recovery. ED is tricky territory for a young man. Your dick should be made of steel well into your 30s. And then there is your reproductive future. Want kids? If you're 18 then you probably don't have a fucking clue if you want kids. You likely will change your mind many times....how many kids and when to have them.

Ok.....sexual pleasure and reproductive issues aside now, you have a lot of physical development left ahead of you. You are nowhere near your genetic max and this is dangerous territory to be abusing steroids in. Your life will likely change drastically in the next 5 years. I dont recomend doing ANYTHING that could be permanent at your age. You think you know what you want but you will change your mind several times.
Ok......sexual pleasure and reproductive and physical development ALL aside, steroids have many side effects. Do some reading. Let's pick one out and focus on the infamous roid rage for a moment. Two of the guys I knew on my high school that were cycling ended up in a lot of trouble. Their emotions were going crazy and they had a very difficult time controlling their anger. Young men have raging hormones and are learning to adapt to this condition and handle all these knew feelings, dramatically increasing these hormones makes the learning curve here much longer and more dramatic.
Planning on going to college? Want to be dealing with the emotional roller coaster that is cycling while simultaneously figuring out your new schedule and study habits and social challenges? Do you have a girlfriend? Is she ready for all this bullshit?
Plenty of young men get away with abusing steroids. I'm sure some will chime in and tell you its gonna be ok. But for every one of these lucky success stories there are a dozen nightmare stories that almost or did ruin their lives.
You've put several ideas out there on this site and EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU ARE COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG. You're not listening to what people are saying. You have no respect for the wealth of knowledge that exists here and have no intentions of taking any of the advice. You are EXACTLY the kind of young man that I'm talking about. The ones that take this leap into steroids and do it blindly and dangerously and it will likely go very very very badly for you. After reading some of your ridiculous ideas about cycling and recovery I have come to the conclusion that you are either a troll......or.......you are just not gonna listen to anything and go forward with whatever self destructive plan pops into your head. I have sons almost your age and it breaks my heart to think they could be as crazy as you. I know kids will be kids but damn......I hope they dont do anything this permanent to themselves.

Please try not to take too much offense to my words. I'm hoping to get thru to you. Diet and workout are all you need. When I was your age I could easily put on muscle whenever I pleased. It's part of being young. Enjoy it. Or......go ahead and destroy it and we will answer your questions in the trt section

Good luck young man.
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I hope you have read this by Latestart ^^ and what Mycelium wrote. Both have told you invaluable information. So lets get down to that most important information.

Good Luck reading,

OM
 
you know what

I have decided to make it into a bulking cycle instead of cutting cycle, despite having high bodyfat. I realized that using steroids and cutting is a waste. what's the point in going on a cycle just for cutting? I feel like it's a wasted cycle. may as well just bulk while on cycle and cut after I'm done
 
Steroids are the single best tool for holding on to muscle mass while in a caloric deficit. However, your above statement fits in with all the other stuff you post.
Good luck. See ya in trt section. I've been on trt for almost 2 years. I may be able to help ya some when it's time. Sooner than later
 
Weeks 1-12 test c at 400 to 500mg once a week

( personally prefer 400 because of bp & being 48)

Weeks 2 -12 - 1/2 mg Anastrozole twice a week

works great for cutting & bulking imo

tdee diet & cardio is going to dictate cut or bulk

this is a standard issue beginner/all around great cycle

disclaimer

blood work is the safest route to determine dosings levels & health status
 
Pretty sure this is a young man. The above cycle is standard issue great cycle......but not for a wishy washy young man who doesnt know how to cut or bulk. If he is gonna risk ruining his life with this.....then he first needs to learn how to manipulate his diet. Learn to cut and bulk without steroids. Otherwise, when you do steroids you will get zero results and then you'll be on here complaining about your supplier givin you bunk gear......or about how you cycled and didnt need an AI. lol
Yeah......no AI needed and no pct either.....if your oil has no hormones in it. Lol

Quality entertainment op :)
 
unforgivin said:
you know what

I have decided to make it into a bulking cycle instead of cutting cycle, despite having high bodyfat. I realized that using steroids and cutting is a waste. what's the point in going on a cycle just for cutting? I feel like it's a wasted cycle. may as well just bulk while on cycle and cut after I'm done
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so FML now has 2 accounts. lol.
 
LateStart said:
Steroids are the single best tool for holding on to muscle mass while in a caloric deficit. However, your above statement fits in with all the other stuff you post.
Good luck. See ya in trt section. I've been on trt for almost 2 years. I may be able to help ya some when it's time. Sooner than later
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I don't plan on ever going on trt. no, fuck that

clomid and nolva works, right? why would I need trt when I can do pct??
 
unforgivin said:
I don't plan on ever going on trt. no, fuck that

clomid and nolva works, right? why would I need trt when I can do pct??
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Because you're a kid. You're destroying your hormones and have zero clue what you're doing. You comprehend nothing that you have read and refuse to listen to the overwhelming wealth of knowledge that has been shared with you. I've known a lot of bros like you young brother.......and almost all of them were on trt by 30.

All of your plans so far have been screaming trt. Would you like me to quote back to you all your crazy posts?

Work out and eat. Good luck
 
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