Megatron28
Moderator
Getting dialed in on TRT is the hardest part, but it is totally worth it.
Restart story after 20 weeks on TRT
- Thread starter bbbjames
- Start date
Alpin
New member
C'mon man!
1 pump...u can't be serious....
You said 2 was not doing anything for you then u took 6 and started feeling it within the same day...
Do you have an AI on hand...???
u might be aromatizing too much.
Megatron28
Moderator
Just get off the crappy gel and start doing injections. Lots easier to manage.
bbbjames
New member
Results are in....E2 is high. Got a call in to my doc, waiting for a reply. Any feedback is appreciated guys!
Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 7.2 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL RN
RBC 5.20 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL RN
Hemoglobin 15.2 12.6-17.7 g/dL RN
Hematocrit 44.6 37.5-51.0 % RN
MCV 86 79-97 fL RN
MCH 29.2 26.6-33.0 pg RN
MCHC 34.1 31.5-35.7 g/dL RN
RDW 13.8 12.3-15.4 % RN
Platelets 185 155-379 x10E3/uL RN
Neutrophils 57 40-74 % RN
Lymphs 30 14-46 % RN
Monocytes 11 4-12 % RN
Eos 2 0-5 % RN
Basos 0 0-3 % RN
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.1 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL RN
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL RN
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.8 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL RN
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL RN
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL RN
Immature Granulocytes 0 0-2 % RN
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL RN
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 91 65-99 mg/dL RN
BUN 15 6-20 mg/dL RN
Creatinine, Serum 1.13 0.76-1.27 mg/dL RN
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 86 >59 mL/min/1.73 RN
eGFR If Africn Am 100 >59 mL/min/1.73 RN
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 13 8-19 RN
Sodium, Serum 140 134-144 mmol/L RN
Potassium, Serum 4.6 3.5-5.2 mmol/L RN
Chloride, Serum 101 97-108 mmol/L RN
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 19-28 mmol/L RN
Calcium, Serum 9.9 8.7-10.2 mg/dL RN
Protein, Total, Serum 7.3 6.0-8.5 g/dL RN
Albumin, Serum 4.8 3.5-5.5 g/dL RN
Globulin, Total 2.5 1.5-4.5 g/dL RN
A/G Ratio 1.9 1.1-2.5 RN
Bilirubin, Total 0.5 0.0-1.2 mg/dL RN
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 58 39-117 IU/L RN
AST (SGOT) 42 HIGH 0-40 IU/L RN
ALT (SGPT) 37 0-44 IU/L RN
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 923 348-1197 ng/dL RN
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH 11.4 HIGH 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL RN
FSH, Serum
FSH 9.1 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL RN
Estradiol
Estradiol 48.6 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL RN
Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 7.2 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL RN
RBC 5.20 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL RN
Hemoglobin 15.2 12.6-17.7 g/dL RN
Hematocrit 44.6 37.5-51.0 % RN
MCV 86 79-97 fL RN
MCH 29.2 26.6-33.0 pg RN
MCHC 34.1 31.5-35.7 g/dL RN
RDW 13.8 12.3-15.4 % RN
Platelets 185 155-379 x10E3/uL RN
Neutrophils 57 40-74 % RN
Lymphs 30 14-46 % RN
Monocytes 11 4-12 % RN
Eos 2 0-5 % RN
Basos 0 0-3 % RN
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.1 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL RN
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL RN
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.8 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL RN
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL RN
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL RN
Immature Granulocytes 0 0-2 % RN
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL RN
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 91 65-99 mg/dL RN
BUN 15 6-20 mg/dL RN
Creatinine, Serum 1.13 0.76-1.27 mg/dL RN
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 86 >59 mL/min/1.73 RN
eGFR If Africn Am 100 >59 mL/min/1.73 RN
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 13 8-19 RN
Sodium, Serum 140 134-144 mmol/L RN
Potassium, Serum 4.6 3.5-5.2 mmol/L RN
Chloride, Serum 101 97-108 mmol/L RN
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 19-28 mmol/L RN
Calcium, Serum 9.9 8.7-10.2 mg/dL RN
Protein, Total, Serum 7.3 6.0-8.5 g/dL RN
Albumin, Serum 4.8 3.5-5.5 g/dL RN
Globulin, Total 2.5 1.5-4.5 g/dL RN
A/G Ratio 1.9 1.1-2.5 RN
Bilirubin, Total 0.5 0.0-1.2 mg/dL RN
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 58 39-117 IU/L RN
AST (SGOT) 42 HIGH 0-40 IU/L RN
ALT (SGPT) 37 0-44 IU/L RN
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 923 348-1197 ng/dL RN
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH 11.4 HIGH 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL RN
FSH, Serum
FSH 9.1 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL RN
Estradiol
Estradiol 48.6 HIGH 7.6-42.6 pg/mL RN
But the next day, I didn't feel anything, so it might have been from something else. Here is what I am going to do. I stopped the gel 3 days ago. 4 months ago, I found out my adrenals were shot. This might have been the reason for the low libido. I am taking pregnenolone for that. In two weeks, I will start clomid to see if I can get restarted. My boys didn't shrink up, so maybe they are still working. We'll see, right now I do not feel bad, but I know I am still running on endogenous testosteron. Wish me luck.
I'll keep this in mind if I start TRT again. Been off gel for 3 days. My T baseline was 400 before starting the gel, so it wasn't real low.
Trying to manage this androgel is just crazy!! I had more bad days than good on it. What the heck is the sense! Most of the time on it, I was impotent. I'm tired of it, I'm sure my girlfriend is too.
Yeah, that is high. He needs to prescribe an AI to get that down.
Yes, APOLLON, I have arimidex on hand. But that was the problem, trying to dose this is a roller coaster ride, that I want to get off. Problem is, I was either up at the E2 peak, and E2 valley most of the time. Very few times in the zone. To me, it is not worth it. I never really did feel that tuned in feeling. Maybe I didn't need it it in the first place. I am thinking my adrenals are the culprit, as I had these hormones tested 4 months ago, and found out I was very low. I have read online that it can take quite a bit of time for these to be restored. I am taking pregnenolone for this.
Mprtz
New member
This is awesome, looks like a near perfect blood test. This is after 30 days of clomid?
bbbjames
New member
Mprtz
New member
Cashout's initial results were similar, if I recall.
Keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Alpin
New member
That E2 is of no concern it's only 6 pg/ml over...
it will come down soon enough...
Some guys use DIM while doing clomid and it helps from what I hear.
So you went from 500 ng/dl on HCG monotherapy therapy to 923 ng/dl TT with the SERM (Clomid)
This is good news!!!!
Any depression, side effects of the ED dosing of the clomid ?
How do you fee now ?
Re test in a month from now and see where everything is....
I'm thinking what would be the possible outcome of 50 mg EOD dosing for 4-6 months.....
We are basically in the same boat....
I'm thinking I should have done this as well before hoping on TRT.
Who cares if u stay there or not....u know your system works if need be.
it will come down soon enough...
Some guys use DIM while doing clomid and it helps from what I hear.
So you went from 500 ng/dl on HCG monotherapy therapy to 923 ng/dl TT with the SERM (Clomid)
This is good news!!!!
Any depression, side effects of the ED dosing of the clomid ?
How do you fee now ?
Re test in a month from now and see where everything is....
I'm thinking what would be the possible outcome of 50 mg EOD dosing for 4-6 months.....
We are basically in the same boat....
I'm thinking I should have done this as well before hoping on TRT.
Who cares if u stay there or not....u know your system works if need be.
Last edited:
bbbjames
New member
I have to say I am feeling pretty good still. No depression, or other sides except for arm acne. I am guessing that is because of where my E2 is currently. I hope it starts to subside. I was going to get bloodwork in 2 months. Do you think I should go again in 4 weeks?
Alpin
New member
I would.
bbbjames
New member
so when was this taken? in relation to meds? looks bullets to me
Last day of Clomid was on Tuesday last week and I got the blood drawn on Thursday.
IMT staff
Official Sponsor
obviously the real test will be to see if it holds in 30 days. proper nutrition and continuous vigorous exercise will play a vital role in weather or not it holds.
I think the only reason your e2 is a tad high is from the clomid, other than that i give you an A++ for recovery, results are perfect in all categories.
Good Job!
Let us know how the next blood test comes in
I think the only reason your e2 is a tad high is from the clomid, other than that i give you an A++ for recovery, results are perfect in all categories.
Good Job!
Let us know how the next blood test comes in
Good for you. It seems like it was a success for you. I might use this same protocol. Can I ask how old you are. I kinda doubt mine would come back like yours, as I am 58.
Similar threads
