Reviews: Tren Enan

09-15-2004

Rows
315*10
375*8
365*8
365*8

Shrugs
405*15
495*12
515*10
495*12

Hammer High Pulls
225 (per side)*9
235*7
225*7

Dumbell Pullovers
130*8
150*4
 
I am beginning week 4 tomorrow (4/11/05), so I dont have alot of info just yet

-Likes
have gained weight while losing some BF% i believe
vascularity seems to be increasing pretty well

-Dislikes
increased body temp, insomnia hit mid 3rd week (not too bad though) and is controllable
appetite is not as heavy as I'd like it to be

-How much you ran
400mg/wk

- How long you ran it
will be a 10 weeker

- How it compares to Tren Ace
this is my 1st go with tren, so I'm not able to compare but I knew the potential sides and decided to take the risk with the long ester

- Would you use it again
so far, yes definitely

- Would you change anything next time you ran it
I developed tingly nips 3 days ago, took 600mg/day B-6 since and no tingly nips, so I'd probably take B-6 from the beginning of cycle next time.
Also probably run 500mg/wk tren e next time
Might also stack another compound that is highly known to increase appetite

- What else was in your stack
1-10 600mg/wk test e
1-4 40mg/day d-bol
 
I had a definant love/hate relationship with Tren E. My strength and size went up noticably but I had to cut my 10 week cycle to 8 because I could not get my blood pressure under control. I was doing 400mgs a week stacked with 500mgs of Test E. I would do it again in the future but I want to get my BF% down a little more and keep up the cardio...I believe that will help me with my BP problems.
 
mudge, id say thats a pretty good workout to sweat from but i dont know about the entire shirt being SOAKED. never have i sweat that much lol.
 
damn you guys make me feel bad. last timei ran it i ran 2g/w for a few months. couldnt tell any diff between it and ace cept it took it about 4 or 5 weeks to kick in. other than that all was thre same. appetite was down, sleep was a joke, peed every 30 minutes, BP went up some. ran this with 2g/w of T cyp.

some one mentioned they bloated off tren in an above post. first time i ever heard of that.

adex dont help with tren sides either, whoever mentioned that. Winstrol (winny) is the best thing out there for tren sides if they are a problem.

mg/mg tren is far superior to test for strength gains.
 
yeah i bloated from it. it was progesterone. i should have ran Winstrol (winny) with it but id rather avoid them both and just run test. i noticed the adex didnt help with tren sides at all like bloat.

dude 2g/week of tren? what does 2g do that 500mg doesnt? just wondering...
 
Starkraven said:
yeah i bloated from it. it was progesterone. i should have ran Winstrol (winny) with it but id rather avoid them both and just run test. i noticed the adex didnt help with tren sides at all like bloat.

dude 2g/week of tren? what does 2g do that 500mg doesnt? just wondering...

obviously the gains arenet 4x as big but there is a noticable difference. same with any hormone., higher doses yeild better results but its not 1/1. 2g/w of test is not 2x as potent as 1g/w. but there is a difference. some folks need more juice than others. same with alcohol, food etc...... what works for me is overkill for many and some need substanially more. i have friend who weighs 200ish and wont even start a cycle with less than 5g/w. course he never comes off but bridges, like many i know in the PLing world.

i do not recommend this to anyone. just sharing my experience.

hey stark were you doing tren by itself when you bloated? thats very odd. 19nors typically dont cause water retention when used by them selves. in fact they have the opposite reeaction esp in moderste to low dosages.
 
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pullinbig said:
damn you guys make me feel bad. last timei ran it i ran 2g/w for a few months. couldnt tell any diff between it and ace cept it took it about 4 or 5 weeks to kick in. other than that all was thre same. appetite was down, sleep was a joke, peed every 30 minutes, BP went up some. ran this with 2g/w of T cyp.

some one mentioned they bloated off tren in an above post. first time i ever heard of that.

adex dont help with tren sides either, whoever mentioned that. Winstrol (winny) is the best thing out there for tren sides if they are a problem.

mg/mg tren is far superior to test for strength gains.
I mentioned using L-dex for BP problems that I assumed was brought on by water retention...even though I never noticed any. Winstrol (winny) huh???
 
pullinbig said:
obviously the gains arenet 4x as big but there is a noticable difference. same with any hormone., higher doses yeild better results but its not 1/1. 2g/w of test is not 2x as potent as 1g/w. but there is a difference. some folks need more juice than others. same with alcohol, food etc...... what works for me is overkill for many and some need substanially more. i have friend who weighs 200ish and wont even start a cycle with less than 5g/w. course he never comes off but bridges, like many i know in the PLing world.

i do not recommend this to anyone. just sharing my experience.

hey stark were you doing tren by itself when you bloated? thats very odd. 19nors typically dont cause water retention when used by them selves. in fact they have the opposite reeaction esp in moderste to low dosages.

wow.
well i did test e with tren e. the test e i went 4 weeks and i thought my adex was fake so i dropped the test (stupid move!) and continued wuth the tren and adex and didnt notice the bloat coming off!! maybe a tad bit but when dieting i wanted NO BLOAT AT ALL. i took tren ace before and didnt bloat, could have been i took too much tren. i did 500mg tren with 500 test. i went 7 weeks with the tren and for 6 weeks later i still bloated AND now 12 WEEKS LATER i still have some very slight bloat in my face/neck. i would like to get back on test 250mg/week with arimidex or aromasin so i hope that will take care of the bloat and eliminate it because having low test = higher estros so if i get back on test and keep the e lowered with aromasin, i should lose the bloat.

aside from that, i am going to stick to mainly test only cycles and not go above 500mg. that dose should keep me gaining for a long long time. i dont need anything else, dbol is great but has some sides i dont like. stressed liver and lower back pumps suck. cant eat while on it but great strength gains!
 
Starkraven said:
wow.
well i did test e with tren e. the test e i went 4 weeks and i thought my adex was fake so i dropped the test (stupid move!) and continued wuth the tren and adex and didnt notice the bloat coming off!! maybe a tad bit but when dieting i wanted NO BLOAT AT ALL. i took tren ace before and didnt bloat, could have been i took too much tren. i did 500mg tren with 500 test. i went 7 weeks with the tren and for 6 weeks later i still bloated AND now 12 WEEKS LATER i still have some very slight bloat in my face/neck. i would like to get back on test 250mg/week with arimidex or aromasin so i hope that will take care of the bloat and eliminate it because having low test = higher estros so if i get back on test and keep the e lowered with aromasin, i should lose the bloat.

aside from that, i am going to stick to mainly test only cycles and not go above 500mg. that dose should keep me gaining for a long long time. i dont need anything else, dbol is great but has some sides i dont like. stressed liver and lower back pumps suck. cant eat while on it but great strength gains!


your bloat aint from tren. not 12 weeks later.

what kinda supps you taking? how many carbs a day you eating? how much water you drinking?

test alone is a great cycle. in fact thats all 99% of lifters need. if you competing adding another hormone is nice but 2 is more than enough for anyone on the state level or below.
 
ntnfdvd said:
I mentioned using L-dex for BP problems that I assumed was brought on by water retention...even though I never noticed any. Winstrol (winny) huh???

winny blocks P sides nicely at low doses.

and tren can cause elevated BP without water bloat.
 
pullinbig said:
winny blocks P sides nicely at low doses.

and tren can cause elevated BP without water bloat.
Yeah...I found that out. PB do you think the BP lowering supplements you listed here a while back would help with Tren related blood pressure problems? My strength and size went up nicely while lowering my body fat on Tren and would love to run it again...but without the sides.
 
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