Riddle me This----5 weeks into 1st

[Jacked27]

So far, 3/4cc Sustanon (sust) E3D. Dosed @ 300mg/cc. Total of 525mg a week.

Started at 204, up to 234. I was regaining some lost size but this is more than I could've ever expected. Things are going so well.

I juuuust finished my first 10ml Sustanon (sust) vial, have one more left and (8) single cc amps of HG USA Cypionate.

Had planned on 8 weeks of the Sust, then the last 4 weeks of the Cyp. Problem lies here.....

The Cyp is dosed 200mg/cc, so 8 1cc vials won't last 4 weeks if I want to stay around 500mg a week.

Here's what my ideas are.

1) Buy more Sustanon (sust) and just finish out the entire 12 weeks with it (perhaps dosing the last 4-6 weeks closer to 600-700 a week.

2) Finish out the (2) 10cc Susts as planned, then do 400mg a week of Cyp for the last month.

3) Dose the Cyp at 500ish a week so the 12 week cycle will end closer to 10-11 weeks.

4) Add a small amount of Deca into the mix the last month. 200-300mgs a week. So the last month would be:
400mg/wk Cyp
200-300mg/wk Deca
Am I retarded to be thinking this?

The only sides I've had are small amounts of acne and a bit of bloat. Doing ADex .5 mg EOD and it seems to be controlling things.

THANK YOU IN ADVANCE btw, I know this is a long post.

 

[0tj0]

As much as I wana say to just "call it quits at week 8 becuase holy shit 30 lbs is badass awsome at 5 wks and few can ask for much more" I know If I had already wanted to go longer and had no sides and the means to do it... I would to.

I would get more sust, I mean you cant argue with results right? Save the Cyp for sometime when you do wana throw another something like Deca in.

Edit: Im not so sure about bumping the Sustanon (sust) at the end though. I think Ide ride out the 525

 

[3rdGroupSF]

You can't tell me the people at your gym don't think your juicing.

 

[China_Wall]

best option... finish out your cycle with the cyp at 400mg's per week... if it's human grade u'll probably feel it more then ur UG Sustanon (sust) at 500+mg's anyway

if that's u in the avatar u are doing it right bro... keep it up!

 

[Jacked27]

As much as I wana say to just "call it quits at week 8 becuase holy shit 30 lbs is badass awsome at 5 wks and few can ask for much more" I know If I had already wanted to go longer and had no sides and the means to do it... I would to.

I would get more sust, I mean you cant argue with results right? Save the Cyp for sometime when you do wana throw another something like Deca in.

Edit: Im not so sure about bumping the Sustanon (sust) at the end though. I think Ide ride out the 525

Thanks, I could do that, since I can get more Sust. My prob is I can't track Cyp from this guy. He has all the UG kings, Sust, Deca, Mast, Prop, Susp, etc.

You can't tell me the people at your gym don't think your juicing.

Haha well the people at my gym have seen me at 218 and deadlifting 500+ and 190 and shredded, so they probably aren't surprised. I used to get accused of juicing all the time in my mid 20's when I was 215 with 18.5" arms naturally. It was more the "I ate the same perfect 6 meals, 300 grams of protein, never drank, always slept 8=9 hours and never missed any of my 5 gym sessions" that made me look like I did/do.

best option... finish out your cycle with the cyp at 400mg's per week... if it's human grade u'll probably feel it more then ur UG Sustanon (sust) at 500+mg's anyway

if that's u in the avatar u are doing it right bro... keep it up!

Thanks China, will probably just do that. I am excited to see if the Paddock HG stuff is better or if I'll feel any different than the UG Sust.

That is me in the avi, sept 2011, 193 lbs. Leanness makes everything look bigger, I'm much bigger now, but hard to tell in photos since I'm no longer deep in the single digits bf.

 

[Jacked27]

Talked to my buddy, gonna just do the planned amount of cyp and do 400mg a week of the cyp. Being my first cycle, I'd rather ride out 12 weeks vs 10-11 at a higher cyp dose.

Here's to 50+ lbs gained.

 

[hard2gain]

Damn I like this guy he's got his shit together! This is gonna be a hell of a cycle I think we'd all like to see some pics towards the end. Keep up the hard work bro this is gonna be a damn impressive cycle!

I think your gonna like the switch to human grade by the way. Even at the lower dose HG is still almost always better.

 

[Dr. Steal]

400 of cyp will be fine for your last 4 wks IMHO. DO NOT run the Deca at the end of your cycle. #1 you should stop deca 4 wks before your post cycle therapy (pct) starts, #2 throwing the deca in the mix at the end of cycle is just asking for all kinds of bloat and other nasty sides.

 

[Dr. Steal]

Great gains BROham!!!

To put it in perspective for ya. On a 14 wk cycle of test E @ 500 per wk I put on 28 lbs and thought that was fantastic!!!

What do you have set up for post cycle therapy (pct)? Lemme guess (you seem to have all your shit together lol) nolva/clomid combo?

I kept 20-21 lbs of what I gained from my last cycle so if you are at a 30 lb gain at wk 5-6 you will be off the charts if you keep growing at this rate.

I bet you are getting the "knowing stares" at teh gym.. I know I did, I actually started going real late or real early to the gym to avoid the after work crowd and there accusatory stares!!! lol

Might up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to 10-15 EOD or just keep doing .5 but change to ED. I know I went with adex and ended up at 15 eod. got rid of all my bloat.

GOOD mutha trukin job though!!!!

 

[Jacked27]

Damn I like this guy he's got his shit together! This is gonna be a hell of a cycle I think we'd all like to see some pics towards the end. Keep up the hard work bro this is gonna be a damn impressive cycle!

I think your gonna like the switch to human grade by the way. Even at the lower dose HG is still almost always better.

Thanks man for the nice words. I have been doing my best to keep everything going smoothly. I work a active full time job with random shifts, so it's been more challenging than would be with my old desk job, but I'm adapting. Been taking days off as needed, avergae training week is 4 days instead of 5 like I used to.

I hope the HG switch is noticeable, although this Sustanon (sust) has been treating me well.

400 of cyp will be fine for your last 4 wks IMHO. DO NOT run the Deca at the end of your cycle. #1 you should stop deca 4 wks before your post cycle therapy (pct) starts, #2 throwing the deca in the mix at the end of cycle is just asking for all kinds of bloat and other nasty sides.

Thanks for the advice man, no Deca will be added. In fact, my 2nd cycle will be prob only 200 deca and 300-400 test a week to see how I react on 2 compounds.

Great gains BROham!!!

To put it in perspective for ya. On a 14 wk cycle of test E @ 500 per wk I put on 28 lbs and thought that was fantastic!!!

What do you have set up for post cycle therapy (pct)? Lemme guess (you seem to have all your shit together lol) nolva/clomid combo?

I kept 20-21 lbs of what I gained from my last cycle so if you are at a 30 lb gain at wk 5-6 you will be off the charts if you keep growing at this rate.

I bet you are getting the "knowing stares" at teh gym.. I know I did, I actually started going real late or real early to the gym to avoid the after work crowd and there accusatory stares!!! lol

Might up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to 10-15 EOD or just keep doing .5 but change to ED. I know I went with adex and ended up at 15 eod. got rid of all my bloat.

GOOD mutha trukin job though!!!!

28lbs in 14 weeks is excellent! Makes me glad to hear you kept that much of the gains. I hope to do the same.

The thing is this, I knew I'd gain a retarded amount of weight for a few reasons.

1) I weighed 235 naturally a decade ago (chubby but still haha)

2) I had been cutting for 5 months and was a depleted 193. Then I spent 6 weeks in a surplus and got to 204 before I started this cycle. If I was smarter, I would've put on another 10lbs naturally before starting but oh well.

3) I'm a little over 6'3" tall, so weight gain/loss is more pronounced because of my height.

I had a convo with my AAS bud and my lack of counting calories and just hitting protein 300+ and "winging it" is over. It has treated me well but I don't want to go over 240 honestly. I know I have 7 weeks left but I'm just gonna drop carbs from the 600+ I was at to only 400, quite low for me. Take it from there.

Macros will be:
400 C
325 P
150 F
About 4100 cals. WAYY less than I had been eating. So I'll see how I react.

As my buddy said, just because it is a "bulking first cycle on test" doesnt mean I have to get bulky/watery/fat. In fact, as we all know, with test high, bodyfat will go down, so I am going to try and clean up my weight for a few weeks. See if this 234 looks better.

 

[crackfox]

Wow.. keep it up !

 

[Jacked27]

As suspected, the bloat was a lot of the weight. I randomly dropped 4 lbs from cutting carbs to 400 grams lol. Looking tighter. Mooody as balls though. Wonder if I should do the Adex every day? I had been doing EOD and yesterday was an off day and I have been sick and hella annoyed by everything. Bleck.

 

[essays]

As suspected, the bloat was a lot of the weight. I randomly dropped 4 lbs from cutting carbs to 400 grams lol. Looking tighter. Mooody as balls though. Wonder if I should do the Adex every day? I had been doing EOD and yesterday was an off day and I have been sick and hella annoyed by everything. Bleck.

AI's tend to make me cranky... take some b12, that stuff makes me happy

 

[hard2gain]

AI's tend to make me cranky... take some b12, that stuff makes me happy

I might have to try this one! I've been pissy as a pregnant bitch on jerry springer lately.

 

[Jacked27]

^Lol I am crank-a-saur-us rex.

Not sure if the 'slight' puffyness of nipples is from the fat gain vs how lean I was or actual gyno isssues. Zero sensitivity. They harden easier than before cycle (no homo lol). Wonder if the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) should be upped?

 

[HongKongBionics]

30lbs in 5 weeks ... wow

 

[Jacked27]

30lbs in 5 weeks ... wow

Make it 28. I'm headed the wrong way haha.

But really I feel much better now that I'm not as bloated. Face isn't as red later into the day after having my meals. Hope to hit 240 in the next 8 weeks and still clean.