Roughest post cycle therapy (pct) yet and only 5 days in...

[coltmc45]

Did I threaten you at all? Why would you be scared. I simply stated a fact. You're an idiot.

I was thrown off by your immature responses and remarks including the whole next time im in SD thing. They sounded like something a 22 year old would say.

Yeah I live in LA buddy so you're not too far away. Be careful what you wish for. In fact why don't you pm me your address and I can stop by tonight and we can talk and "hug" it out since you're an Internet bad ass and like runnin your mouth.

 

[BJJ Juice]

Did I threaten you at all? Why would you be scared. I simply stated a fact. You're an idiot.

I was thrown off by your immature responses and remarks including the whole next time im in SD thing. They sounded like something a 22 year old would say.

Yeah I live in LA buddy so you're not too far away. Be careful what you wish for. In fact why don't you pm me your address and I can stop by tonight and we can talk and "hug" it out since you're an Internet bad ass and like runnin your mouth.

I'll be in Carson CA at the end of Sept. for the US Nationals Jiu-Jitsu Tournament, you really should stop by and say HI.
Also that cute little arm in your avatar, is that your before pic? Sure hope it's not your after pic.

 

[coltmc45]

I'll be in Carson CA at the end of Sept. for the US Nationals Jiu-Jitsu Tournament, you really should stop by and say HI.
Also that cute little arm in your avatar, is that your before pic? Sure hope it's not your after pic.

Yeah I figured you wouldn't have the balls to back up the next time I'm in SD comment. Goin to a jiu-jitsu tourney huh? Watching your boy friend fight or what? I'm done with your childish pissing contest. An the whole jui-jitsu comment doesn't frighten me. Like I said, since you're such an Internet bad ass and wanna meet me so bad pm me your address and I'll come pay you a visit but I'm guessing you won't since most rough and tough guys on the Internet (like you seem to be) are usually 120lb bean poles that still wet the bed. Now unless you're really a tough guy and really have the balls to back up your "scary" jiu-jitsu comment and all the tough guy threats and other childish and irrevelent things you've posted (because EVERY single post you've made has been completely irrelevant) then I'm done speaking. Buh bye.

 

[rustjunk]

Two wrong things you did. I suggest you stop taking steroids and just read before yoiu fuck yourself up. You made two changes to your cycle so now you dont know what fucked you up, also you didnt have all your supplies before cycle.

 

[StevenTae]

Colt. Back to the original post. How r u feeling now? The sleep could be a huge factor here. Also Give b12 a shot. It always seems to give me a feeling of well being (could be in my head though). I doubt it's the dbol as ur cyp would still be in ur system for the two weeks u were on dbol. A good buddy of mine crashed har after his deca/test cycle that he came off of. Crashed even with proper pct planned. He switched peptide companies after a week of pct since he wasn't coming back and he came back quick after switching peptide companies. His opinion was his clomid was bunk. Once switched he snapped back quick. Anything is possible.

 

[coltmc45]

Two wrong things you did. I suggest you stop taking steroids and just read before yoiu fuck yourself up. You made two changes to your cycle so now you dont know what fucked you up, also you didnt have all your supplies before cycle.

Lol

 

[coltmc45]

Colt. Back to the original post. How r u feeling now? The sleep could be a huge factor here. Also Give b12 a shot. It always seems to give me a feeling of well being (could be in my head though). I doubt it's the dbol as ur cyp would still be in ur system for the two weeks u were on dbol. A good buddy of mine crashed har after his deca/test cycle that he came off of. Crashed even with proper post cycle therapy (pct) planned. He switched peptide companies after a week of post cycle therapy (pct) since he wasn't coming back and he came back quick after switching peptide companies. His opinion was his clomid was bunk. Once switched he snapped back quick. Anything is possible.

Yeah I'm feelin better today. Got some sleep last night and I know that helped.

I got the nolva and clomid from a Canadian pharm company so I'm pretty sure they're legit. I'm def gonna run hcg in every cycle from now on. Never had this problem before but I'm gettin older now and I've never ran something that shuts you down like deca. Decided I was gonna blast hcg at the end and got it ordered and then they halted all orders. Thanks for the reply bro!

 

[cyclegtr]

Colt ignore the jackasses that tend to chime in for no apparent reason. But I did laugh at the Jitshu comment. I'd like to kick his ass along with you just for saying that. Candy ass. As for your post cycle therapy (pct), stick to what you're doing and you'll rebound. If needed for sleep, go to your doc and get some Xanax. I'm recovering myself at the moment and I sleep like a baby after taking that stuff. Tell your doc you're stressed and can't sleep and need Xanax.

 

[bishopone1]

Yeah bro im curious as to how u are feeling and if u came back to normal or not? Do u think if u would have ran the hcg that this wouldnt of have happened? And yeah fuck that dude haha i hate when ppl bash with irrelevent points.

 

[UserAt204]

There's a couple things I'm seeing. First clomid, even if used before without issue, can cause the symptoms you are having. I hate clomid. I would get some torem quick and swap it out or push thru.

Next by back loading dbol you most likely increased your e2 levels which was fine while you had elevated test but now that test has left your body you likely still have elevated e2 with low test. That's going to make you feel like shit.

Deca will cause severe shut down but I've used deca and no post cycle therapy (pct) and didn't feel that bad but we are all different.

Honestly it's hard to pinpoint anything at this point and blood work won't tell us anything because the point you are at and using post cycle therapy (pct) drugs.

Stay off the scale because it will fuck with your head. You don't need that right now. Use some OTC stuff to help you sleep. I like igf in post cycle therapy (pct) to keep pumps. If you have to, eat smaller more frequent meals and right now eat things you want to. Don't worry about being super clean. I would try to keep cals up more then worrying about eating clean just to get you thru.

Each cycle can be very different. Most of the problem is simply having f'd up hormones right now. We usually feel good when test is high and estro is low. Right now you are likely the opposite. Is it possible that you have a cold or virus on top of all this? Get lots of rest right now and spend less time in the gym. You still need to hit it hard but lower reps/sets. Hormones are a funny thing. It's great when they are working in our favor but can be equally as bad when they are not.

For now on, make sure you have some hcg to help ease into things. You sound like you are crashing hard and that's what you want to avoid. Wish I could help you more man but you need to get your body up and running.


Were you having any symptoms from estro or prolactin on cycle? Did you run your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) the whole cycle? Aromatase inhibitor (AI) doses can need to be increased as the cycle progresses.

 

[coltmc45]

Yeah I'm not worried bout an Internet tough guy.

Feeling better today. Got some rest last night. I can actually eat today too which is nice. Thanks fellas.

User, I was running adex through my cycle and still got a small lump so I jumped on letro for almost a month then switch to aromasin and I'm on 12.5 everyday. I was on 25 but that drove my estro too low it seemed so I backed off. I'm still on aromasin and will be on through post cycle therapy (pct).

Yeah I've never had a crash like this before. Was really fucking with my head which made it even worse. I kinda figured I should just get cals anyway I could, clean or not, so I've been eating all kinds of shit today but if that's what I have to do and put the 2.5 bf points I lost during the cycle back on then fuck it I'll cut in a few months.

As far as hcg goes, I've ran 2 previous cycles, test then test and dbol, and never used it. Hell I was a lucky one that learned about gear from someone in person that actually knew how to do a proper cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) but he never mentioned hcg. I joined ology right before this cycle to get more info and saw you, det, and cobra talking about it for every cycle. After talking to cobra I decided it would be smart to run it so I ordered it but yeah, we know how these things go sometimes. All my cycles will from now on include hcg FOR SURE!

Yeah I've cut my workouts down a little. Always do in post cycle therapy (pct). Lower reps in every set and not goin bat shit crazy. I'm in and out in 45 min. My workout still seemed to suck today even though I felt better but it is what it is for the time being. I know it'll pass it.

Anyways, thanks for your response brother I appreciate it.

 

[UserAt204]

Good to hear you are felling better. There will be good and bad days but sounds like it hit hard at the start of this thread. Man if you needed something fast you should of talked to one of us for "advice". But like you said, you were fine without hcg before and I've ran plenty of cycles without but it's readily availiable now and should be taken advantage of. But let's not dwell on the past. When adding or changing things it can really mess with you.

It's all a learning experience and you figure out what works for you and what doesn't. I suggest trying torem for your next post cycle therapy (pct). It works the same way as clomid but for most people it doesn't have any shitty sides or depression.

Good luck and keep us posted on how you are doing. Push thru and you will be good in no time.

 

[coltmc45]

Yeah I'll definitely use torem next go around.

Thanks again bro!

 

[ZWhit]

Could be prolactin related also, from the deca. It wouldn't hurt to throw some vitamin B6 into the mix to get that under control. 200mg two or three times a day could only benefit you.

 

[bigherm2121]

How you feeling bro? I just started Clomid today so hopefully it goes good. I was on a text only cycle.