Running a cycle of DECA + AI *ONLY*

[wise]

I want to learn from the physiological side what would happen if hypothetically you ran ONLY nandrolone decanoate along with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Letro or Arimidex.
Can someone with some knowledge in this explain to me?

I'm going through a book right now on endocrine physiology so I'm not an expert but tell me what you know.

 

[Megatron28]

You would shut down your testosterone production. Read this.

Deca Durabolin (nandrolone decanoate) | Steroidology.com

 

[Austinite]

Nothing out of the ordinary would happen. You'll be fully suppressed after the first shot, and without testosterone however, you won't function like a man, and you'll likely be miserable.

I don't really see the point, even in an experimental view. Too much data available to bother with experimenting with something like this.

 

[Rida5d]

You won't need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as u have no test
Man.. Do not try this.. You ll be miserable as hell and ur gf will be packing her bags in no time searching for a real man

 

[Teutonic]

Sounds like someone got his hands on deca and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and is itching to cycle.....

You ll be a limp dicked, depressed, lonely lifter.

 

[Italiano SPO]

This is dumb!

 

[WhiteDog]

Why do we continue to see threads like this?

 

[romeo021095]

lol someone must not like their dick

 

[Austinite]

lol someone must not like their dick

Not that I advocate the use of Nandrolone without testosterone, but erectile dysfunction is manageable, just like anything else is.

 

[3ct]

doesn't sound wise bro..

 

[Cheph]

Yea get done cialis

 

[wise]

Nothing out of the ordinary would happen. You'll be fully suppressed after the first shot, and without testosterone however, you won't function like a man, and you'll likely be miserable.

I don't really see the point, even in an experimental view. Too much data available to bother with experimenting with something like this.

I don't get why everyone is going ape shit over this. I didn't say I want to try it, I don't even have Deca and I'm not going to cycle for at least 8 months anyways. Just want to learn scientifically:

Back on topic: Natural test production is reduced by any AAS, so why is it any different? If you don't have testosterone in your system but instead have 19-nortestosterone (which is similar as hell to testosterone) why would you feel depressed? And what do you mean "feel like shit", got any better description?
Thanks.

 

[Austinite]

I don't get why everyone is going ape shit over this. I didn't say I want to try it, I don't even have Deca and I'm not going to cycle for at least 8 months anyways. Just want to learn scientifically:

Back on topic: Natural test production is reduced by any AAS, so why is it any different? If you don't have testosterone in your system but instead have 19-nortestosterone (which is similar as hell to testosterone) why would you feel depressed? And what do you mean "feel like shit", got any better description?
Thanks.

I never said "feel like S%$!". When you use quotes, quote.

I stated the reasons already. testosterone allows you to function like a man. without it, you won't. You'll become lethargic and weak. It's already weak minded to cycle without testosterone, so why become weak bodied as well? These effects from the lack of testosterone will hinder your efforts at the gym, with your diet and more. While you might still get some results, you'll waste plenty of time and money. Your results would be far better, even with a low dose. Fact for everyone? Maybe not, but absolutely for the majority. Chances of you or I being that lucky is slim to none.

You don't even need a whole lot of testosterone. You just need enough to function like a man. I'm not telling you to go out and buy 10 vials of test. Just one, one vial is all you need. You can run as little as 150mg per week to function like a man. That's one 10ml vial of test enanthate (250mg/ml) will last you over 16 weeks at that dose. If you're running 150 mg per week, that's less than a quarter of a CC twice a week. Not sure how much easier it gets really.

 

[Rida5d]

Back on topic: Natural test production is reduced by any AAS, .

That's exactly why you should inject test.....

 

[wise]

I never said "feel like S%$!". When you use quotes, quote.

I stated the reasons already. testosterone allows you to function like a man. without it, you won't. You'll become lethargic and weak. It's already weak minded to cycle without testosterone, so why become weak bodied as well? These effects from the lack of testosterone will hinder your efforts at the gym, with your diet and more. While you might still get some results, you'll waste plenty of time and money. Your results would be far better, even with a low dose. Fact for everyone? Maybe not, but absolutely for the majority. Chances of you or I being that lucky is slim to none.

You don't even need a whole lot of testosterone. You just need enough to function like a man. I'm not telling you to go out and buy 10 vials of test. Just one, one vial is all you need. You can run as little as 150mg per week to function like a man. That's one 10ml vial of test enanthate (250mg/ml) will last you over 16 weeks at that dose. If you're running 150 mg per week, that's less than a quarter of a CC twice a week. Not sure how much easier it gets really.

Thanks, I understand what you are saying. What my question is, however, is why does 19-nortestosterone not take the role of testosterone in making you "function like a man"? Basically, since the molecule is similar enough to fuck with the HPTA feedback loop, then why isn't it similar enough to fulfill the role of testosterone regarding making you "function like a man" ?

I looked through the book but it didn't have any discussion on this, that's why I made the thread.

 

[Megatron28]

Thanks, I understand what you are saying. What my question is, however, is why does 19-nortestosterone not take the role of testosterone in making you "function like a man"? Basically, since the molecule is similar enough to fuck with the HPTA feedback loop, then why isn't it similar enough to fulfill the role of testosterone regarding making you "function like a man" ?

I looked through the book but it didn't have any discussion on this, that's why I made the thread.

They are similar. But they are not the same. Reading the following may help you.

Nandrolone

 

[Austinite]

Thanks, I understand what you are saying. What my question is, however, is why does 19-nortestosterone not take the role of testosterone in making you "function like a man"? Basically, since the molecule is similar enough to fuck with the HPTA feedback loop, then why isn't it similar enough to fulfill the role of testosterone regarding making you "function like a man" ?

I looked through the book but it didn't have any discussion on this, that's why I made the thread.

Because nandrolone is not testosterone. Look at your blood work and see your testosterone levels on a nadrolone only cycle. They'll be in the tank.

 

[OnlyTheGreat]

I want to learn from the physiological side what would happen if hypothetically you ran ONLY nandrolone decanoate along with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Letro or Arimidex.
Can someone with some knowledge in this explain to me?

I'm going through a book right now on endocrine physiology so I'm not an expert but tell me what you know.

deca does not need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as it does not aromatise. you need a prolactin antagonist for deca.

so to answer your question, with only deca and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as letro or adex, you would get very high prolactin levels (depending on dose) and shut down the endocrine system. therefore leaving you moodless, lonely, depressed and with leaky nipples and a limp dick. i'm no expert but i would advise against doing such a thing

cycle responsibly so you can continue to do so, instead of spoiling everything the aas world has to offer by making a silly decision now.

 

[shenky]

I don't get why everyone is going ape shit over this. I didn't say I want to try it, I don't even have Deca and I'm not going to cycle for at least 8 months anyways. Just want to learn scientifically:

Back on topic: Natural test production is reduced by any AAS, so why is it any different? If you don't have testosterone in your system but instead have 19-nortestosterone (which is similar as hell to testosterone) why would you feel depressed? And what do you mean "feel like shit", got any better .

For science!!!

 

[Megatron28]

deca does not need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as it does not aromatise. you need a prolactin antagonist for deca.

so to answer your question, with only deca and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as letro or adex, you would get very high prolactin levels (depending on dose) and shut down the endocrine system. therefore leaving you moodless, lonely, depressed and with leaky nipples and a limp dick. i'm no expert but i would advise against doing such a thing

cycle responsibly so you can continue to do so, instead of spoiling everything the aas world has to offer by making a silly decision now.

Nandrolone does convert to estrogen. Just less than Test does.

Nandrolone also show an extremely lower tendency for estrogen conversion. For comparison, the rate has been estimated to be only about 20% of that seen with testosterones. This is because while the liver can convert nandrolone to estradiol, in other more active sites of steroid aromatization such as adipose tissue nandrolone is far less open to this process’. Consequently estrogen related side effects are a much lower concern with this drug. An anti-estrogen is likewise rarely needed with Deca, gynecomastia only a worry among sensitive individuals.

This is from the first of the two links I provided earlier.