crazyfmike
New member
No splitting hairs, just an overall year round personal estimate of the role you find Diet vs Training vs Gear plays in this game.
60/15/25
60/15/25
%'s divided: diet, training, gear
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rippedliving
New member
50/30/20
4everBulking
New member
60/20/20
transcend2007
HRT for life
I understand the simplicity of the question. You want to know how important members feel diet, training and gear each individually count towards achieving the desired result.
The only issue for me is consistency (work and life get in the way). It becomes more difficult to measure if training and gear are done consistently while diet gets sloppy. Or, even if diet is great but workouts are missed results also suffer.
With all that said I believe over 40 years old it is 30/30/40 (diet, training, and gear).
The only issue for me is consistency (work and life get in the way). It becomes more difficult to measure if training and gear are done consistently while diet gets sloppy. Or, even if diet is great but workouts are missed results also suffer.
With all that said I believe over 40 years old it is 30/30/40 (diet, training, and gear).
jadakiss
New member
i believe alot of newbies believe that drug is the most important and that is the reason they abuse it and have estro problems. if they would take the time to understand that diet is the number 1 thing that then alot of people would not have to use a gram for there first cycle like alot of guys that ive seen here doing.
brother bundy
I am banned!
diet 80 training 10 gear 10 This looks like I dont train but I train hard.Its just I feel diet is everything.You can eat right and look good without any training or gear now try that shit the other way and see how you will look...like dog shit!
ardbeg
cruising
You cannot out-train your diet. That is so, so, so important. Somebody was just saying today (honestly, I forget which post or I'd link to it) -- eating itself is anabolic. If you're training right, and you're properly insulin sensitive, your body is not going to store fat when you eat food. It's going to build muscle. I'm not saying anything mysterious and amazing when I say if you start at 3500 calories a day, and then hit 750mg/wk of T, and don't increase your calorie intake, you will build nothing.
Because of this, I'm going to go with 3J here and say diet is 80%. Now as for that other 20 percent, how much is training and how much is gear? Well, I think there's a lot of variables here. Gear is not the same from vendor to vendor -- some of it is shitty, some of it is outright fake, and so on. By the same token, some dudes think they're training awesome, and they can't even break parallel squatting. So good training is super important (along with rest!). I am inclined to say that gear is either 5 or 10 percent here, but I don't have any experience with it. It's certainly not more than training because if you sat on your ass with a perfect diet and did a snorkels-style cycle, you'd get nothing. If anything, that says to me 80/10/10.
Because of this, I'm going to go with 3J here and say diet is 80%. Now as for that other 20 percent, how much is training and how much is gear? Well, I think there's a lot of variables here. Gear is not the same from vendor to vendor -- some of it is shitty, some of it is outright fake, and so on. By the same token, some dudes think they're training awesome, and they can't even break parallel squatting. So good training is super important (along with rest!). I am inclined to say that gear is either 5 or 10 percent here, but I don't have any experience with it. It's certainly not more than training because if you sat on your ass with a perfect diet and did a snorkels-style cycle, you'd get nothing. If anything, that says to me 80/10/10.
BEASTMUSCLE
BEAST!
40/30/30
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