Saw my old family doc today........

Who cares? How does it change your circumstances right this second in any way shape or form? You're trying to cast blame on someone, and whether they deserve it or not isn't going to help you right now. Why don't you understand this? You've been advised to do 50mg EOD basically and retest after. RUI ships clomid. Where is the problem? It's probably not that much more expensive through RUI and if these docs are as bad as you make them out to be, why aren't you listening to 2Rude, Austin, Half, and Megatron?

ok I will...
but RUI has 35 mg/ml...
I would take 1.5 ml?
No the 1 doc is difficult....the other is better....
I didn't want to press him hard yesterday...saw him after like 5 years.
 
ok I will...
but RUI has 35 mg/ml...
I would take 1.5 ml?
No the 1 doc is difficult....the other is better....
I didn't want to press him hard yesterday...saw him after like 5 years.

1.5ml would be 52mg so that's a perfect dose. Try it out its not like your levels can get much worse and the possible benefit is real natty production.
 
MEGATRON:

In Billy's case he has a separate document from his blood work that says his Bio Available T is 7.1 nmol/L (range: 2.5-18.7 nmol/L)
This puts Billy Right in the middle....but he has Low Free T on subsequent blood work...
what does Billy do? since the diagnosis of his "deficiency" is not even clear at this point....
Billy took the test for Bio Available T in the worst shape of his life....
since that blood work he has trimmed 11 pounds.
What could Billy reasonably expect if he wear to continue to lean down even further?

Another well known lab has a range of: 3.6-11.2 nmol/L for Bio Avail. T
What is Billy to do?
His results are remarkably better in the later mentioned lab. Puts him in a "healthier range"
 

I was worried that the exogenous LH from the HCG might interfere with my natural production...thus screwing up things more.
Plus my doc had me on monthly labs pretty much he would have noticed the elevations in T and suppression of LH/FSH on my blood work...
And its very possible he could go and tell my parents I'm not listening to him and using anabolics again and not allowing my body to repair itself.
I was trying to get him to help me by prescribing me some clomid....he says it will help me but he wont sign the script...
 
My parents go this doc too and they are asking him how things are coming along....so they are involved too.
 
This would be a good scenario to put to the family doc that has been dragging this out all these months by not putting me on clomid...
and he said it himself: "this is good, this will help you...but I won't write it"
I say: "Why"?
He says: "I'd rather the endo do it...whatever he says...what if it gives you breast cancer, wouldn't you want me to be careful"?
so basically if the endo prescribes it and it gives me breast cancer he is ok with it cause he didn't prescribe it and is not liable?
that's what it sounds like to me...
Why did the family doc intervene in a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) docs protocol that he prescribed to me and he said: "you don't need it, your body will make it's own"
The testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doc I have is no different than the endo he would send me to...
In fact the endo might not know what the fuck he is doing and just write a script for 200 mg every 2 weeks....
W.T.F. is that suppose to mean?

Sorry Apollon -- but that is bullshit and another copout by you. Don't put this scenario to anyone else other than yourself. You are in a position to help yourself. It is time you took ownership of your health and did something about it. It would be one thing if you didn't have the means -- but you do have the means and knowledge to help yourself.
 
MEGATRON:

In Billy's case he has a separate document from his blood work that says his Bio Available T is 7.1 nmol/L (range: 2.5-18.7 nmol/L)
This puts Billy Right in the middle....but he has Low Free T on subsequent blood work...
what does Billy do? since the diagnosis of his "deficiency" is not even clear at this point....
Billy took the test for Bio Available T in the worst shape of his life....
since that blood work he has trimmed 11 pounds.
What could Billy reasonably expect if he wear to continue to lean down even further?

Another well known lab has a range of: 3.6-11.2 nmol/L for Bio Avail. T
What is Billy to do?
His results are remarkably better in the later mentioned lab. Puts him in a "healthier range"

Nothing has changed. Best options are clearly to try a restart or begin testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) immediately. Next best option is to stop bitching and live with Low T for the rest of your life (and likely early death).
 
Nothing has changed. Best options are clearly to try a restart or begin testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) immediately. Next best option is to stop bitching and live with Low T for the rest of your life (and likely early death).

That's what I told the doc...that I could die.
He said: "I don't think so"....
I have the T in my drawer here in front of me....
once I get follow up on blood work and see no results...
I will take action.
Only Jesus can cure my HPTA.
 
That's what I told the doc...that I could die.
He said: "I don't think so"....
I have the T in my drawer here in front of me....
once I get follow up on blood work and see no results...
I will take action.
Only Jesus can cure my HPTA.

Or clomid. ;-)
 
With this RUI clomid, how would I measure it?
A syringe would be a logical way of measuring 1.5 ml...
I don't want spillage of the product, does this RUI bottle have a squirt top or something for precise pouring of liquid?
 
Product label says: "Not for human consumption for research purposes only"
I'm suppose to gauge recovery on this?
C'mon guys!
 
With this RUI clomid, how would I measure it?
A syringe would be a logical way of measuring 1.5 ml...
I don't want spillage of the product, does this RUI bottle have a squirt top or something for precise pouring of liquid?

It comes with an oral syringe/dropper. Put the syringe/dropper intot he opening on the neck of the bottle, draw back 1.5ml or whatever the equivalent of 50mg of clomid and put it right in your mouth.
 
Product label says: "Not for human consumption for research purposes only"
I'm suppose to gauge recovery on this?
C'mon guys!

It's got to say that so they can legally be allowed to sell it to you. It's for your "research". With your time on this board are you really questioning the legitimacy of RUI of all places? C'mon now.
 
Oh great, mention death, these threads and post with his obsession is never going to end. ;)

Nothing has changed. Best options are clearly to try a restart or begin testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) immediately. Next best option is to stop bitching and live with Low T for the rest of your life (and likely early death).
 
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