Second cycle 12wk test e & tbol

I'm looking to get some bloodwork, but I might have a dumb question based upon a post above. For males, which test should I pick from be Private MD labs sight? I see the reference to 'female hormone panel' so not sure. Thanks for any help! Cycle will be t300, deca and dbol.


female hormone panel
 
12 week test-e, dbol, tbol cycle

So I was almost positive I was going to hop on the tren train, however some members advised against it until I have more experience in aas. I respect all criticism. This is my second cycle, you guys really had my back with my test-e only cycle and I'm hoping you will be just as helpful with this one.

stats:
22
6'1
210
9% bf

I eat super clean, drink on avg. a gallon of water a day(will pick up to 2 gallons during dbol) and have been training at minimum 5 days a week for 4 years now. I was a prior scout sniper in the army so physical conditioning has always been a must.

Cycle:
test e 1-12 600mg/week
Dbol 1-4 50mg/day
tbol 8-14 70mg/day


Hcg 250iu every mon and thurs weeks 3-14(up till pct)
adex .5mg/oed
Liv. 52
2g of NAC ED


Pct:

Tamox 40/40/20/20
clom 75/75/50/50



Please guys, anything and everything you can add please do. I will say that there is no reason to be a dick either. I am very open to criticism and am a grown man myself. I only ask to be treated like one. Thanks in advance. Happy lifting bros
 
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Looks good...:yesway:

I would start the HCG week 1, testicular atrophy starts to happen after the first pin so, why wait till week 3? Also, Clomid @50/50/50/50 is best. Too much clomid can lead to sides and there's no benefit from over dosaging.
 
Looks fine

keep it simple

pct--- same does ed x 28 days i m o...chlomid can fuck with you


It s alway s hard for me to see "I used to be a ....ANYTHING BADASS.....and then see 22...."
No disrespect..when I was 22 I was a stoned out of my mind, geared up, pussy chasing, 69 chevelle driving, frat boy s nightmare, redneck drunk who went to scholl as it was better than working, it was to easy....justified the former...
 
Looks good...:yesway:

I would start the HCG week 1, testicular atrophy starts to happen after the first pin so, why wait till week 3? Also, Clomid @50/50/50/50 is best. Too much clomid can lead to sides and there's no benefit from over dosaging.

Gotcha bro! Cycle has been adjusted and no no complaints on the clom. You're saving my money ;)
 
Looks fine

keep it simple

pct--- same does ed x 28 days i m o...chlomid can fuck with you


It s alway s hard for me to see "I used to be a ....ANYTHING BADASS.....and then see 22...."
No disrespect..when I was 22 I was a stoned out of my mind, geared up, pussy chasing, 69 chevelle driving, frat boy s nightmare, redneck drunk who went to scholl as it was better than working, it was to easy....justified the former...

Haha I totally get it. Most 22 year old are pussy kids that have no life experience and shit. Done my time on deployments and shit ;) good times
 
My diet is on point. I ride at a typical 9 -10% all year long. This will be my first dbol adventure though. I do crossfit atvleast 5 days a week. Some may disagree with my choice but I cant deny my love for olympic lifts. So my cardio is in top notch shape
 
Maybe I am crazy for saying this but instead of running dbol and tbol you could up the dbol dosage or just plain switch to something like anadrol which will give more muscle gains. I mean T-bol is nice but it is not that strong. I would rather take the extra toxicity it is going to bring to the cycle and just run a moderate dosage of anadrol or high dosage of Dbol. Your going to get bloated from the d-bol no matter what. Even with estrogen in control. And like I said T-bol is kind of week. I would rather run t-bol on its own and try to stay lean than add it with D-bol. Than you have a chance of keeping your abs at least.

But if you are going for bulking up I would consider anadrol or just a higher dosage of D-bol. If you are a true 9% body fat you might be able to keep your abb's honestly with d-bol and t-bol but I still think the water retention and bloat from estrogen will make it hard. Maybe I just suck at controlling water retention.


A great cycle to get you ready for tren also would be. Test E/Deca/d-bol because than you will get experience with how to control progesterone and how you react to it. You would gain more muscle with the Test E/ Deca/ Dbol stack also and it would be less toxic than running two orals plus like I said you will get use to running prami or caber to control progesterone. Me personally I think my idea is a good stepping stone to tren.
 
Maybe I am crazy for saying this but instead of running dbol and tbol you could up the dbol dosage or just plain switch to something like anadrol which will give more muscle gains. I mean T-bol is nice but it is not that strong. I would rather take the extra toxicity it is going to bring to the cycle and just run a moderate dosage of anadrol or high dosage of Dbol. Your going to get bloated from the d-bol no matter what. Even with estrogen in control. And like I said T-bol is kind of week. I would rather run t-bol on its own and try to stay lean than add it with D-bol. Than you have a chance of keeping your abs at least.

But if you are going for bulking up I would consider anadrol or just a higher dosage of D-bol. If you are a true 9% body fat you might be able to keep your abb's honestly with d-bol and t-bol but I still think the water retention and bloat from estrogen will make it hard. Maybe I just suck at controlling water retention.


A great cycle to get you ready for tren also would be. Test E/Deca/d-bol because than you will get experience with how to control progesterone and how you react to it. You would gain more muscle with the Test E/ Deca/ Dbol stack also and it would be less toxic than running two orals plus like I said you will get use to running prami or caber to control progesterone. Me personally I think my idea is a good stepping stone to tren.

For sure brother, the only reason I'm running the tbol at the end is because one of my buddies swears by the stuff and it always leans him out like crazy.
 
Hey bros! Was thinking about throwing in come clen at the end as well!! Suggestions would be awesome! Much appreciated dudes
 
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