Second Cycle Any Suggestions??

[txxs]

I'm in the process of planning my Second Cycle. My first Cycle was 500/mg TestE /Week/12 weeks. My goals for this Cycle are to gain 15-20lbs of lean muscle while cutting BF from 15-16% to 12-13%

Stats:
34yrs
6'2"
220lbs

I'm considering a TestE/Anavar cycle
600mg/TestE/Week/12 weeks
40mg Anavar/ed/weeks 7-12
PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20. Does this cycle fit with my goals? Does anyone have any alternative suggestions? Once I have my cycle planned out I will post it in the other forum along with more specific stats/wo/diet etc. Any feedback will be appreciated.

 

[JoosedUp]

I'm in the process of planning my Second Cycle. My first Cycle was 500/mg TestE /Week/12 weeks. My goals for this Cycle are to gain 15-20lbs of lean muscle while cutting BF from 15-16% to 12-13%

Stats:
34yrs
6'2"
220lbs

I'm considering a TestE/Anavar cycle
600mg/TestE/Week/12 weeks
40mg Anavar/ed/weeks 7-12
PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20. Does this cycle fit with my goals? Does anyone have any alternative suggestions? Once I have my cycle planned out I will post it in the other forum along with more specific stats/wo/diet etc. Any feedback will be appreciated.

if you wanna cut that kind of weight then you'll be best served adding in a cutting compound ie. Winstrol (winny), anavar (which i'd run at 80mg's wk), primo, tren , etc. just because test causes alot of bloat and unless you're diet is cmpletely on point and you've got it on lock, it CAN be hard to gain LBM from test.

 

[cyto33]

No need to increase the test. stay at 500mg but add in Mastagen. 300mg per week that will have great snynergy effects. while making you hard and vascular while still putting on lean weight.

 

[Envyme]

Um no offense, but he's only done 1 cycle and it was a Test E only like it should be. I don't recommend jumping into tren and orals etc..

Best way to do this is slow and steady.
1. Test
2. Test +another injectable compound.
3. Test +another injectable compound +oral.

then..... you can start adding in Tren etc compounds that really arent as bad as they seem, but require research, controlling sides, proper dosing etc.. you just need to know your stuff. (This is just my opinion)

I'd suggest you do this for a cutting cycle.

Sust 450 .5cc EoD for 12 weeks.
Anavar but start it week 9 That way you can run it up to PCT to keep you goin while you're coming off the test, then PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Add in some Aromasin 6.25 ED or 12.5 EoD
Proviron can also help boost the test and help binding etc.. sex drive, hardening look etc. (just make sure you arent prone to hairloss)

Test does cause bloat, but you can control it with proper AIs and diet.

Here is a mock run.

Sustaplex 450 .5 CC EoD 1-12
Anavar 6 weeks before you start the PCT next day.
Proviron @50mg ED
Aromasin 6.25ED or 12.5 EoD

PCT - 3 weeks after last pin
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 25/25/25/25/25

That's just my 2 cents, hope this helps!

I'd stay away from dbol (bloat), tren, etc.. just wait till you have a few cycles under your belt before you jump to harder compounds.

Best of luck!

 

[Envyme]

No need to increase the test. stay at 500mg but add in Mastagen. 300mg per week that will have great snynergy effects. while making you hard and vascular while still putting on lean weight.

Agreed.
Excellent post as always. Cut and dry information. no bs added.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if you wanna cut that kind of weight then you'll be best served adding in a cutting compound ie. Winstrol (winny), anavar (which i'd run at 80mg's wk), primo, tren , etc. just because test causes alot of bloat and unless you're diet is cmpletely on point and you've got it on lock, it CAN be hard to gain LBM from test.

are you talking about?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

My goals for this Cycle are to gain 15-20lbs of lean muscle

 

[Envyme]

The-Det-Oak
I've seen a couple of his post in random threads that don't make sense(joosedup). I normally don't post unless someone gives bad information or misleading advice, so I had to jump in on this one.

The guy wan'ts to gain muscle (15-20lbs) while cutting his body fat. You either bulk or cut, and i'd say this guy wants to cut for his 2nd cycle.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

ya makes sense, if he wants to cut thats fine, i just find it really hard to put on muscle or strength while dieting. Anytime i cut my carbs strength goes out the window.

the biggest problem with joosed's post is he is suggesting certain compounds to " cut you up". while i will agree some compounds serve a cutting cycle better than others, his post is misleading.

winny is used mainly by competitors to reduce water retention before a show. i doubt Winstrol (winny) will " cut him up" unless he is already a fairly low bodyfat, like under 10 percent.

his posts just show me that he has no idea what he is talking about. I mean " its hard to gain LBM while on test" he obviously does not realize the difference between gains and water.

 

[Envyme]

Exactly.
If he wanted to gain lean muscle while cutting fat i'd suggest Tren which works great at a very low caloric intake, but! this is only his 2nd cycle and thats a harsh compound that needs research and discipline before running. Which one learns and gains in time through running simple more controlled cycles.

I'd say either sus, or a short ester Test cycle. Add in Var or Primo and give it a go.
Control the diet very strict, carb cycle, very clean, find exactly what you need for your gains. Your diet is more important than your AAS, so make sure to have it on lock.

I also through in the Proviron to help him keep less water and a harder look.

 

[MotorIHead]

are you talking about?

ROTFL ! Thanks for that laugh brudda.

I'm in the process of planning my Second Cycle. My first Cycle was 500/mg TestE /Week/12 weeks. My goals for this Cycle are to gain 15-20lbs of lean muscle while cutting BF from 15-16% to 12-13%

Stats:
34yrs
6'2"
220lbs

I'm considering a TestE/Anavar cycle
600mg/TestE/Week/12 weeks
40mg Anavar/ed/weeks 7-12
PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20. Does this cycle fit with my goals? Does anyone have any alternative suggestions? Once I have my cycle planned out I will post it in the other forum along with more specific stats/wo/diet etc. Any feedback will be appreciated.

IMO u've done a correct 1st cycle. I would jump to Test & Deca now. 500mg Test a week & 400mg Deca a week. Bulk then cut though, it's the best way to be.

 

[safety-man]

Bulk then cut though, it's the best way to be.

thats great advice IMO. Unfortunatley i went in the opposite direction on my second cycle only to regret it in the long run.

 

[JoosedUp]

Um no offense, but he's only done 1 cycle and it was a Test E only like it should be. I don't recommend jumping into tren and orals etc..

Best way to do this is slow and steady.
1. Test
2. Test +another injectable compound.
3. Test +another injectable compound +oral.

then..... you can start adding in Tren etc compounds that really arent as bad as they seem, but require research, controlling sides, proper dosing etc.. you just need to know your stuff. (This is just my opinion)

I'd suggest you do this for a cutting cycle.

Sust 450 .5cc EoD for 12 weeks.
Anavar but start it week 9 That way you can run it up to PCT to keep you goin while you're coming off the test, then PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Add in some Aromasin 6.25 ED or 12.5 EoD
Proviron can also help boost the test and help binding etc.. sex drive, hardening look etc. (just make sure you arent prone to hairloss)

Test does cause bloat, but you can control it with proper AIs and diet.

Here is a mock run.

Sustaplex 450 .5 CC EoD 1-12
Anavar 6 weeks before you start the PCT next day.
Proviron @50mg ED
Aromasin 6.25ED or 12.5 EoD

PCT - 3 weeks after last pin
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 25/25/25/25/25

That's just my 2 cents, hope this helps!

I'd stay away from dbol (bloat), tren, etc.. just wait till you have a few cycles under your belt before you jump to harder compounds.

Best of luck!

sorry , i took in the wrong info. had several thread open. i thought he was trying to cut body fat, not put on 15-20 pounds, so lay off.
clearly i would never recommend tren to someone like him it was merely an example of an effective cutting style steroid. and LOL at not recommending an oral cycle to a newbie. that's the quintessential first cycle.. something like an anavar only type of cycle is VERY typical to see how you respong to such weaker oral only compounds. go away.

 

[Envyme]

Wasn't picking on ya man, just wanted to make sure he got the right info.
So calm down there turbo.

 

[JoosedUp]

Wasn't picking on ya man, just wanted to make sure he got the right info.
So calm down there turbo.

very sorry. i am calm now. turbo out.

 

[MotorIHead]

sorry , i took in the wrong info. had several thread open. i thought he was trying to cut body fat, not put on 15-20 pounds, so lay off.
clearly i would never recommend tren to someone like him it was merely an example of an effective cutting style steroid. and LOL at not recommending an oral cycle to a newbie. that's the quintessential first cycle.. something like an anavar only type of cycle is VERY typical to see how you respong to such weaker oral only compounds. go away.

Why are u telling him to lay off if u clearly gave the wrong info. It's not his fault u had "multiple threads open". U say the complete wrong advice ur going to get called out on here, simple as that. Don't hate on him for ur mistake. As for the oral cycle BS u speak of, it is NOT the "quintessential first cycle".

I dunno where ur getting ur info, but clearly u need to stop listening to them and read some threads here on Ology.