Short first cycle

miskell

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Alrite guys, what do you think of this as a short first cycle? Not wanting to put on too much bulk, but do want to promote muscle growth with my current training regime. I do martial arts/boxing so my my aim would be to put on some mass (not huge amounts) but also stay quite lean and quick. Thanks

test cyp: 300mg p/w (weeks 1-6)
whinnies: 50mg p/d (weeks 1-6)
Clomid: 50mg p/d for 20 days (starting week 7)

Would I also need some Nolvadex or would this be sufficient? Thanks.
 
Welcome to the board !!

Switch out your Test cyp for some Test prop and you've got yourself a winner. The cyp ester is too long to run in a short cycle like that. Run the prop @ 100mg EOD, that will put you at 350mg/week.

I would also do a regular post cycle therapy (pct) ........300/100/50 with the Clomid.

With cyp, you would have to wait for 2 weeks after last injection before starting post cycle therapy (pct), with the prop, start it 2 days after last injection.
 
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Thank for the advice Stone Cold. Been reading up for a while so trying to devise the best cycle for my needs without putting on masses of muscle. Will be looking for a supplier so I can get the cycle up and running. Thanks again.
 
Yeah, my diet consists of a lot of protein and lean meat, but will probably up my calory intake over the course of the cycle. I thought the whinnies would be good to stack with the test for the gains i'm wanting i.e to gain some good lean muscle without bulking too severely. Am i right? Thanks bro.
 
Got another question I'd be grateful if someone could advise me. The reason I chose test cyp on my first thread was because I could get away with one injection a week, but obviously its much less effective than test prop for a 7 week cycle. I'm not too keen on injecting myself EOD which may be a problem. From the research I've done it seems to get any good results from a cycle you really need test, but would there be an alternative to take with the winstrol which would offer similar results that I'm after?? Not a pussy or anything, but i'll probably wait till later cycles before a start injecting seriously. Thanks for the help.



(Also: As a newbie, YOU NEED TO READ THE RULES......NOW!! )

Miskell
 
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This may seem a little stupid, but such a 6-7 week cycle of test prop and winstrol is there a high chance of side effects?? Growing bitch tits or mood swings I could handle but hair loss is a different story!! Thanks

Miskell
 
miskell said:
This may seem a little stupid, but such a 6-7 week cycle of test prop and winstrol is there a high chance of side effects?? Growing bitch tits or mood swings I could handle but hair loss is a different story!! Thanks

Miskell
winstrol can be rough on the hair
 
Really? Thats the only thing putting me off my first cycle. Bitch tits are temporary, any long term strain on the liver is unlikely but hair loss is permanent!! Fuck that.
 
miskell said:
Really? Thats the only thing putting me off my first cycle. Bitch tits are temporary, any long term strain on the liver is unlikely but hair loss is permanent!! Fuck that.


sometimes "bitch tits" are NOT temporary bro

-push
 
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