Sorry for another redundant newbie post!
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Megatron28
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The reason we prefer to talk about mg is because not all steroids are dosed the same. In other words at the same concentration of mg per ml. You can even see this illustrated with your two compounds. One is 250mg/ml and the other is 200mg/ml. So telling us that you take 1/2 a CC (or 1/2 an ml) doesn't tell us a whole lot. Some steroid are dosed at 100mg/ml while other can be 400mg/ml. Just telling us the volume leaves us to guess how many mg you are taking with each injection.
Got it. So, if the test is 250 mg/ml and I'm taking 1/2 cc per dose, twice a week, that's 250 mg Test E per week and 200 mg Tren E per week.
Yup, which is why I was planning to PCT.
I'm a little unclear on the whole nolva thing. I have liquid Clomid and liquid Tamox (RUI products). Do I need nolva, also?
Xander24
New member
Tamox is Nolva. So you are in possession of it. I'd hit HCG first if you can get it. Remember to take 14 days off, meaning no steroids or PCT drugs before starting your PCT. But for those 14 days before your PCT I would blast HCG at 500iu/day for 10 straight days. Then I'd take 4 days off and then begin to hit the clomid and nolva (tamox).
Megatron28
Moderator
Nolvadex is the brand name for Tamoxifen. They are the same. Like how Tylenol and Acetometaphen are the same thing.
So how long are you going to wait after your last injection to start PCT? And what will you be running for PCT (medications, dosages, weeks)?
When will you run post-cycle blood work and which labs?
Looks like 14 days after my last dose is when I should start PCT.
I'll do the doses on the clomid and nolva, that were recommended here.
Post cycle blood work, I'm thinking, should be after everything has cleared my system? 14 days after my last PCT?
Post-cycle blood work...I was looking at the links you've provided and I like the Male Ultimate Checkup. I see that you recommend the Advanced Female Hormone panel.
Megatron28
Moderator
Get post-cycle blood work about 6-8 weeks after PCT ends. Two weeks is too soon
Most guys get the Hormone Panel for Females. But if you can afford to spend more and get something more comprehensive do so by all means. Just make sure it has LH, FSH, Estradiol, Total Test, CBC and Met-a-bolic Profile.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
Dude are you fucking crazy? You were running a gram of tren on your first cycle. That is fucked up dude. IFBB pros only run about 1.5x that dosage during their pre contest cuts. You should keep going but cut those dosages. I would say to cut out the tren at this point but too late you already bombarded your hpta with a high dose of that shit.
Edit: I am reading previous posts and it seems you are indicating a cycle of test e 500mg wk and tren e 400 mg wk. Is this correct OP? If so I say keep it going at this point and pick up the ancillaries you need immediately. If that is not possible then stop now and run a proper pct. There is no point in fucking around with a 6 week cycle and getting no gains while risking hpta damage. If you have already started your cycle just run it correctly from here on out and then run a proper pct and pray to the god of each religion that you will recover because you are setting yourself up for failure.
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I think it actually works out to .5 gram of Test E per week and .4 gram of Tren E per week.
I'm going to try to locate the HCG, ASAP. Even though I plan on ending the cycle early, I want to have it for next time.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
LOL
I'm having trouble with the whole ml/mg conversion...then there's the variable about the amount of actual product dissolved in the solution.
The best way I know to tell you is this: I'm using Tren E 200 and Test E 250...I dose 1/2 ml of each, twice a week. Don't know how better to describe it.
Like I said, first time, ever. One of my partners juices and I got my dosages through him, from his doctor. Yeah, he has a doctor, but he's doing a lot heavier shit than me.
I wish I had found this site, first, so I could've had baseline bloodwork done and known about some of the other stuff. However, I did some research and didn't just go into it cold. I've found I was a little uninformed. Like the saying goes, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I'm learning, just like everyone else before me.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
You got it right. You can have test e dose at 200 mg/ml and test e dosed at 300 mg/ml. If one person has the test 300 and the other the test 200 and they both pin 1 ml each twice a week one person will be on a 600 mg test a week cycle, the other a 400 mg of test a week cycle. Did that help at all?
cybrsage
New member
Tren E 200 would be 200mg/ml. If you are doing half a ml, you would get half the total mg as well, which means 100mg. Same with the Test E 250, but it would be 125mg. If you do this twice a week, you are injecting 200mg of Tren E and 250mg of Test E. It will take a while for the full effects to kick in due to the ester involved.
Yes, it did. Thanks.
tury694
Pale Gorilla
That's what I thought at first too. This dude would have hated his first cycle
