Charles Bronson
old timey gentleman
stick around, do some reading.. make friends.
this place has some good peeps, great info
Sorry for another redundant newbie post!
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stick around, do some reading.. make friends.
this place has some good peeps, great info
Ok, I'm back. Not giving up, but I will be better prepared, next time!
Been doing a lot of reading. (Great article on TRT, btw, Megatron.) I'm 55, so this was very informative.
I'm on PCT, now. Didn't get the HCG in time, but I'll have it for my next cycle.
All the reading just created more questions, for me.
Can you TRT while on PCT?
Why should you not try to cut while on PCT?
AI's...there are two types:
irreversible steroidal inhibitors (i.e. Exemastane).
And the non, steroidal inhibitors I (i.e. Anastrozole).
Which would be the type I should run, if needed? (It seems the "stanes" are the most preferred?)
I found a cycle in the newbies/FAQ section, that most closely resembles the cycle I want.
It is:
wk 1-13 Testosterone Enanthate 350-500mg ew
wk 1-12 Trenbolone Enanthate 200-400mg ew
wk 1-12 Equipoise 300-400mg ew
wk 1-18 Nolvadex
wk 15-18 Clomid
My question is on the equipoise. It seems it's on a par with the Tren, so why add it? It does seem like there's very little side effects from it.
Been doing a lot of reading. (Great article on TRT, btw, Megatron.) I'm 55, so this was very informative.
I'm on PCT, now. Didn't get the HCG in time, but I'll have it for my next cycle.
All the reading just created more questions, for me.
Can you TRT while on PCT?
Why should you not try to cut while on PCT?
AI's...there are two types:
irreversible steroidal inhibitors (i.e. Exemastane).
And the non, steroidal inhibitors I (i.e. Anastrozole).
Which would be the type I should run, if needed? (It seems the "stanes" are the most preferred?)
I found a cycle in the newbies/FAQ section, that most closely resembles the cycle I want.
It is:
wk 1-13 Testosterone Enanthate 350-500mg ew
wk 1-12 Trenbolone Enanthate 200-400mg ew
wk 1-12 Equipoise 300-400mg ew
wk 1-18 Nolvadex
wk 15-18 Clomid
My question is on the equipoise. It seems it's on a par with the Tren, so why add it? It does seem like there's very little side effects from it.
SoCalSwole
New member
You know the more I talk to guys that dabble in gear use they speak in CC's not MG's. I was talking to some guys in Vegas about this and explained the MG's is what matters and not the CC's. They thought I was some sort of gear genius. I was like WTF guys this is basic shit.
OP please do some research once you have the basics we would be happy to help you on your journey, as long as your stats add up.
OP please do some research once you have the basics we would be happy to help you on your journey, as long as your stats add up.
Got it. Thanks.
I'm not familiar with "adex non suicidal". I assume the "non suicidal" refers to the non-steroidal type? I couldn't find adex, but I did find Arimidex. Is that the same thing?
Yeah, I read on the hematocrit side-effect, but it seemed to apply to someone doing a long cycle.
Why is it you shouldn't try to cut while on PCT? (I'm not cutting, just want to understand.)
Yeah, I caught onto the whole mg thing...the other stuff really doesn't matter. So, I'm getting better at math.
Megatron28
Moderator
Might want to read this again. Won't answer all your questions but it will help.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
hiram1st
New member
Yes adex, arimidex, anastrozol all the same thing.
During your PCT your trying to keep your gains right maintain them after coming off cycle
SoCalSwole
New member
That cycle your thinking about is far from a newbie cycle. What you want to do is try each of the test preparations on their own and see how you react then add just one of the others along with your favorite test and see how those taste. learn how each effects you so if you attempt a cycle like the one you wrote down you can tell whats messing with you and know how to fix it.
Same with the AI's start with Adex and learn how to effectively use it. Then try Exemestane. If your 55 then there is no reason to cycle on and off just stay on a low dose like 200mg a week of just test in between periods of more compounds and higher test levels. You also need to be realistic about your goals. The above cycle would be an advanced cycle done by an experienced with years of gaining and a lot of mass. If your starting out at 55 with training then I will be realistic and say it is highly unlikely you can get to this point at your age.
EQ is a considered a mild anabolic. I really like it and have had some great success with it. But I need to limit my exposure to it due to the blood quality issues it brings. Also high levels of anabolics is hell on your blood lipids Cholesterol levels will also be greatly effected. You need to research the supplements that can help you out in this department. Niacin, and red rice yeast can improve the levels and ratios, however depending what your level of fitness is right now and also your current cholesterol levels and hematocrit levels should be the determination factor of what if any compounds you can safely run.
Being a little older myself I can tell you from experience. When I was younger these were not concerns I could fix anything with diet and supplementation now that I am in my 40's it is a little harder to right the ship so quickly. One thing you might look into that would greatly improve your quality of life is HGH that along with moderate test use and careful monitoring of blood quality and you can't go wrong. But please read up on the risks and know what to do to fix yourself and have the things you need on hand to fix yourself before you jump in both feet.
I didn't just start training at 55. I've been training for a few years and really hitting it hard for the last year...all naturally. I'm not trying to get there overnight. I know the age thing is somewhat limiting, but it's not a complete write off. A big plus is that I'm in very good condition and in excellent health.
I've done a short Test E/Tren E cycle (6 wks.). The results were really good and I didn't get any gyno issues. I know I stopped early, but I found this place and started reading, so decided to end early, do PCT, and re-group. I wouldn't mind restarting the same cycle, after I get bloodwork done.
Plus, after reading Megatron's post on TRT, I think I can get better Test through my doctor...legally.
I'm a little hesitant about HGH. Just because I've seen too many guys that ran it for too long. I'm sure it's good if it's used right, but my reading has been more on the Tren and Test. I even decided against Test prop and Tren A, because I didn't think I was ready for that level. (As it turns out, I wasn't ready for ANY level. LOL)
I think I may go back to just the Tren E/Test E cycle and leave the EQ for later. For now, I'm going to complete my PCT, then get blood done. I had some concern during the beginning of my PCT, because I wasn't getting erect. It's coming back now, so I'm assuming the PCT is doing it's job.
I will cycle again, I'll just be better armed, next time!
Everyone, I appreciate all the input and help! I'm sure these are questions you've answered hundreds of times, so I really appreciate the advice.
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SoCalSwole
New member
Welcome, Continue your research. I doubt you will find too many supporters of running tren so early. Also read again about Tren A vs. Tren E. Tren A is actually IMO better and safer. The idea is you can feel the effects much quicker so you can tell when to dial back the dose or increase it, with tren E it takes so damn long to build up that many guys overdose it trying to "feel" it and end up sick for a few weeks after it starts coming on.
I know tren sounds very attractive but it should be given the utmost respect and I would not touch it until you have experience with all the others that are at your disposal.
Megatron28
Moderator
Tren is a horrible choice for a first cycle.
Megatron28
Moderator
Testosterone. Just wonderful testosterone. You really need to read the sticky threads. We are here to help, but not spoon feed.
Yes, sir. I did read that. I just had such good gains with the tren, in the short time I used it, that I'd like to try a full cycle.
I will listen though. As soon as I finish PCT and get my blood done, I'll try the test only.
Megatron28
Moderator
Time On + PCT = Time Off
Yup, read that too. My calculations are 6 weeks on, 2 weeks off, 4 weeks of PCT = 12 weeks, AFTER completing PCT, before I can cycle again.
As you know, math is not my strong suit! LOL
