Stacking 3 things!!

The Shadow

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hey guys im new in here and my english is not very good...anyways I'm stacking 3 things(Deca Durabolin, D-bol and Sustanon) I want to bulk up before summer and get shredded for summer, i'm also taking arimidex with it, how much do you guys thing I should gain? I do 600 mg of deca, 600 mg of sustanon and 2 pills of dbol each one is 20 mg so thats 140 mg of dbols a week altogether...btw its my first time injecting in my thighs and before i did it in my glutes which didnt hurt a girl did it for me but now im doing it myself in my thighs and every time deca hurts like a bi**h feels like i got kicked by a horse and gets itchy but i guess i gotta tough it out lol
 
oh and my eating and everything is really good 5 meals atleast with 2 chakes a day also taking udos oil and multi vitamins with everything
 
how old are you, whats your lifting experiance and how much do you wiegh, and whats your body fat? as for your cycle, i would say to forget about the deca and d-bol. the reason why i say this is the simple fact that its your first cycle so you should be using test only. test is the base of every cycle so you need to know how your body will react to it. having 3 substance in your first cycle will cause you not to know where the problem is coming from if you do get any. it is also good to start with test e or test c as your first cycle. so if you can get your hands on either one of those that would be good. sustanon as short along with long esters in it so you would have to inject every other day to keep your blood levels stable. the more unstable your blood levels are the more you feel the sides. with test e or test c you would just need to inject twice a week.
 
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Oh i said it is my first time injecting on my thighs not first cycle and this is my 3rd cycle i'm 21 i've been lifting for 4 years, i have alot of lifting expirience, not sure about my exact body fat but I have a ripped hard body type with size also but i want more size
 
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your too young too be on your 3rd cycle.. but either way my opinion is too much deca.. amd if your doing 2pills a day at 20mg each thats 280mg p/w of dbol.. so is it 2-10mg or 2-20mgpills a day?.. and for the arimidex how much and how often?
 
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I take it the pills are 1 mg? If so, save yourself some $, start taking 1 mg EOD. You don't want to block all your estrogen.
 
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/con...urnalcode=jcem

Estrogen Suppression in Males: Metabolic Effects1

Nelly Mauras, Kimberly O. O’Brien, Karen Oerter Klein and Valerie Hayes
Nemours Research Programs at the Nemours Children’s Clinic (N.M., V..H.), Jacksonville, Florida 32207; DuPont Hospital for Children (K.O.K.), Wilmington, Delaware 19803; and The Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health (K.O.O.), Baltimore, Maryland 21205-2179

Address all correspondence and requests for reprints to: Nelly Mauras, M.D., Nemours Children’s Clinic, 807 Nira Street, Jacksonville, Florida 32207. E-mail: nmauras@nemours.org.

We have shown that testosterone (T) deficiency per se is associated with marked catabolic effects on protein, calcium metabolism, and body composition in men independent of changes in GH or insulin-like growth factor I production. It is not clear, however, whether estrogens have a major role in whole body anabolism in males. We investigated the metabolic effects of selective estrogen suppression in the male using a potent aromatase inhibitor, Arimidex (Anastrozole). First, a dose-response study of 12 males (mean age, 16.1 ± 0.3 yr) was conducted, and blood withdrawn at baseline and after 10 days of oral Arimidex given as two different doses (either 0.5 or 1 mg) in random order with a 14-day washout in between. A sensitive estradiol (E2) assay showed an approximately 50% decrease in E2 concentrations with either of the two doses; hence, a 1-mg dose was selected for other studies. Subsequently, eight males (aged 15–22 yr; four adults and four late pubertal) had isotopic infusions of [13C]leucine and 42Ca/44Ca, indirect calorimetry, dual energy x-ray absorptiometry, isokinetic dynamometry, and growth factors measurements performed before and after 10 weeks of daily doses of Arimidex. Contrary to the effects of T withdrawal, there were no significant changes in body composition (body mass index, fat mass, and fat-free mass) after estrogen suppression or in rates of protein synthesis or degradation; carbohydrate, lipid, or protein oxidation; muscle strength; calcium kinetics; or bone growth factors concentrations. However, E2 concentrations decreased 48% (P = 0.006), with no significant change in mean and peak GH concentrations, but with an 18% decrease in plasma insulin-like growth factor I concentrations. There was a 58% increase in serum T (P = 0.0001), sex hormone-binding globulin did not change, whereas LH and FSH concentrations increased (P < 0.02, both). Serum bone markers, osteocalcin and bone alkaline phosphatase concentrations, and rates of bone calcium deposition and resorption did not change. In conclusion, these data suggest that in the male 1) estrogens do not contribute significantly to the changes in body composition and protein synthesis observed with changing androgen levels; 2) estrogen is a main regulator of the gonadal-pituitary feedback for the gonadotropin axis; and 3) this level of aromatase inhibition does not negatively impact either kinetically measured rates of bone calcium turnover or indirect markers of bone calcium turnover, at least in the short term. Further studies will provide valuable information on whether timed aromatase inhibition can be useful in increasing the height potential of pubertal boys with profound growth retardation without the confounding negative effects of gonadal androgen suppression.
 
so for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) purpose you are wanting to block how much? , Sorry for thread jacking but i posted a post about arimadex earlier and i got responce to take .25 of a pill every day
 
thx alot guys, yes arimidex is 1 mg and only blocks some of the estrogen since i got a very small lump on my chest but its slowly going away, i wanted to be safer by blocking some estrogen and its going to be 10 -12 week cycle after im done with the cycle ill take, Nolvadex, Clomid and HCG! and yes i did spent alot of money on this and i mean ALOT i also take liv 52 for liver care with the cycle
 
oh i thought it worked better than that for me though. I only on .5 eod and joints were drying out pretty bad. I got mine from Researchstop

SUPPRESSION IS RELATIVE... lean individuals or those will low peripheral aromatase production will tend to respond well to low dose anastrozole.

THOUGH joint dryness can occur without significant supression of aromatase in the sites where its needed... because arimidex is a competitive inhibitor tissue distribution can yield a situation where you have symptoms of low estrogen but still experience localized estrogenic effects (the most pertinent to many here being that breast tissue itself as well as surrounding adipose tissue are a significant source of aromatase)... so plasma E may be sufficiently low but local E still too high. keeping in mind that where something is converted is a much overlooked factor in what is deemed as "effective" estrogen suppression.

arimidex is a particular offender as it highly suppresses central conversion and may only moderately suppress peripheral (hence why it nearly completely suppresses synthesis of estrone but not estradiol which in men is produced almost entirely periperally)
 
that is again just one possibility... there are a lot of individual factors that come into play as well as the impact of other compounds.... one must also not forget about SHBG (which many mistakenly beleive should be suppressed... failing to take into account the trough effect that this can yeild in plasma androgen levels due to insufficient reseviour carrier proteins (SHBG), creating a test/estrogen ratio that is unfavorable and would not exist in absence of such suppression.
 
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