Stacking Prohormones with AAS
- Thread starter Good Grip
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THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
why would someone add something that has more sides and less positives. if you want something stronger than dbol than get an AAS thats stronger.
I like to run 1-AD with injectible long-estered test.
Years ago, I had great results with 1-AD, and also the classic 1-AD / 4-AD stack.
Now, 4-AD is quite a disappointing source of testosterone, it has short half-life and causes a lot of estrogeny bloating. 1-AD with "real" test works much better.
Let me explain why I still use 1-AD when we can get pretty much any steroid on the internet.
1) It's a great dry bulker
2) It's not 17-a methylated, so it has no liver toxicity
3) It has a 1-2 double bond, so a good amount survives the liver first pass. Primobolan also has this double bond, which is why it too is orally active.
4) 1-AD is very cheap compared to primo tablets.
5) I've never read this anywhere, but I believe 1-AD (or 1-test) has an aromatase inhibiting effect, maybe slightly weaker than proviron. It definitely seems to reduce the moderate bloat from the testosterone.
My current cycle is 500mg test enanthate / week (10 weeks), with an oral turinabol "kickstart", and an oral "kickstop" (probably MHN or Anavar). I'm injecting small amounts of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice weekly to keep the boys in the barracks, and to make post cycle therapy (pct) easier when it starts at the end of week 12.
The great thing about 1-AD is that you can run it, bookended by two methylated orals, yet still give your liver enzymes time to recover.
In this way, it's my cheap Primo. Taking pills every day forces me to train - I don't want to waste them, if you know what I mean.
1-AD was the pinnacle of the "true" prohormones (it converts to 1-testosterone via a decent enzymatic pathway) and works well, but it's very dry and shuts you down quick. I think it's still the best way to get 1-test into yourself (injections are notoriously painful, and M-1T is another proposition entirely, with many side effects)
1-AD / 4-AD was an okay combo, but 1-AD / test enanthate go together like a horse and carriage.
Years ago, I had great results with 1-AD, and also the classic 1-AD / 4-AD stack.
Now, 4-AD is quite a disappointing source of testosterone, it has short half-life and causes a lot of estrogeny bloating. 1-AD with "real" test works much better.
Let me explain why I still use 1-AD when we can get pretty much any steroid on the internet.
1) It's a great dry bulker
2) It's not 17-a methylated, so it has no liver toxicity
3) It has a 1-2 double bond, so a good amount survives the liver first pass. Primobolan also has this double bond, which is why it too is orally active.
4) 1-AD is very cheap compared to primo tablets.
5) I've never read this anywhere, but I believe 1-AD (or 1-test) has an aromatase inhibiting effect, maybe slightly weaker than proviron. It definitely seems to reduce the moderate bloat from the testosterone.
My current cycle is 500mg test enanthate / week (10 weeks), with an oral turinabol "kickstart", and an oral "kickstop" (probably MHN or Anavar). I'm injecting small amounts of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) twice weekly to keep the boys in the barracks, and to make post cycle therapy (pct) easier when it starts at the end of week 12.
The great thing about 1-AD is that you can run it, bookended by two methylated orals, yet still give your liver enzymes time to recover.
In this way, it's my cheap Primo. Taking pills every day forces me to train - I don't want to waste them, if you know what I mean.
1-AD was the pinnacle of the "true" prohormones (it converts to 1-testosterone via a decent enzymatic pathway) and works well, but it's very dry and shuts you down quick. I think it's still the best way to get 1-test into yourself (injections are notoriously painful, and M-1T is another proposition entirely, with many side effects)
1-AD / 4-AD was an okay combo, but 1-AD / test enanthate go together like a horse and carriage.
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Die$eL~Man
Straight Up Gangster !
if your taking aas, youre already taking the real deal.. no need to stack it with pro hormones that are inferior
1-AD has a real niche. I know it's technically a prohormone, but no way do I look down my nose at it.
I'm a chemist, as well as a bodybuilder - I've been hitting the weights for 22 years. In my fridge at this moment I have test enanthate, cypionate, turinabol, hundreds of dianabol, Methyl hydroxy nandrolone, winstrol (tabs), proviron, hcg, tamoxifen, clenbuterol - and 2 bottles of 1-AD.
The 1-AD was the hardest to get hold of, believe it or not - everything else you can get at most steroid websites. I consider it a valuable compound for the same reason that people pay a premium for anavar or primobolan.
I'm a chemist, as well as a bodybuilder - I've been hitting the weights for 22 years. In my fridge at this moment I have test enanthate, cypionate, turinabol, hundreds of dianabol, Methyl hydroxy nandrolone, winstrol (tabs), proviron, hcg, tamoxifen, clenbuterol - and 2 bottles of 1-AD.
The 1-AD was the hardest to get hold of, believe it or not - everything else you can get at most steroid websites. I consider it a valuable compound for the same reason that people pay a premium for anavar or primobolan.
Good Grip
New member
I took 1Tu and can definatly say it was damn good. I miss it alot so I bought 2 bottles of Primordial Performance's 1T lv. Havent taken it yet, but I will compare it. I posed the question in this thread because some guys are on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and thats the only real AAS they can get. Ive heard of some stacking it with prohormones to good effect. I just wanted to get some feedback from the community here.
Italiano SPO
La possiedo il figlio
I think that's kind of like cutting off your 50 Meg download speed and putting dial up back in. I agree with Diesel.
Rougen123
New member
I agreed with SPO and Diesel bro. I've done it before. If your gonna stack PH's with your AAS use a non methylated compound. I think the statements about superdone being more powerful are kinda ridiculous man. The only good superdrone I've ever taken was the very first one I ever took that I bought from a bro at my old gym, Supervol by CTD labs. They don't make it anymore, shit was good, but I put on alot of water weight. If you really want some kind of kicker or something bro I'd really just go with dbol. Also would like to throw in that if your using 17a's, or have been and have been kinda non-chalant about it, I'd really get your liver values taken. Mine were fucked up and I'm worried they still are...
TroyDiesel25
New member
Wow had no idea 1-AD was still around...
mindovermatter
New member
I agree with SPO and Diesel also. Before I started AAS I tried out all the Prohormones and while I got some decent results there were a ton of sides. I think if your can get your hands on some decent gear you will be much happier with the results of the AAS alone. Why take the chance of getting all the sides with the Prohormones.
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GetToDaChoppa!
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Man, I hope that's not you in your avatar.
if it can get thru the liver first pass wouldn't that mean it is causing stress on the liver.... thus still liver toxic? seems odd for me. instead of a ph if you're using test already throw in a compound that can do more for less.
eat/drink better to help control the bloat.
eat/drink better to help control the bloat.
