started 1st cycle.

joshyj

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hey,

ive begun my first cycle pinning 300mg of prop a week and 50mg of winstrol a day,

im also having a small dose of ghb of a night time to have a deep sleep.

along with protein , antioxidants , high potency vitamens and intrawork out shakes.


any further advice?

what post cycle therapy (pct) should i plan on doing ?

any advice would be greatly appreciated and helpful.

Thanks JJ.

:elephant:
 
also is that the right dosage? if not how many 10ml viles of the test prop 150mg/1ml and winstrol 75mg/1ml will i need over an 8 week period .

thanks. JJ
 
Here is somthing that may help you:
Testosterone propionate is similar to enanthate, cypionate, and sustanon. However, compared to enanthate or cypionate, propionate is a much shorter ester and will release more quickly into the bloodstream. As a result of its short action, more frequent (daily) injections are required to prevent steroid blood levels from tapering down and becoming ineffective. An injection schedule of every third day is about the longest you would want to perform using propionate to achieve good results. For best results - daily injections are more suitable given the nature of this agent. Peak propionate levels take place after 24-36 hours and taper down from there. As a result of the frequency of injections required of propionate, it is not a very attractive steroid for those who are doing their first cycle or those who do not like intra-muscular injections to begin with. For a first cycle, a longer acting, single ester testosterone such as enanthate or cypionate or preferred because in both cases few injections can be made while maintaining stable blood levels and thereby optimizing results. Respectively, enanthate should be injected twice weekly and cypionate once weekly. Since both yield similar results, the first time user would more likely enjoy either of those two compounds over propionate. The benefits of propionate may not be worth the additional energy required for the injections. Propionate is also a relatively painful steroid to inject with uses complaining that the same spots become aggravated with additional injections which require injecting in several different places for prevention of this pain. The injection site may become irritated and users have complained of long lasting pain caused by the injections. For these reasons, propionate is not such a good idea for the first time steroid user, however, enanthate and cypionate are not without their share of complications and all factors should be assessed before beginning with any steroid cycle. If propionate is the steroid of choice, ancillary drugs such as nolvadex, proviron and arimidex are advised to have on hand during the cycle in case symptoms of gyno arise (or if you wish, you can run these drugs during the cycle for prevention). All testosterones will aromatize, although some have a lesser chance of it. Propionate may be one of those drugs, but proper precautions should be taken, nevertheless.

Testosterone propionate has a short active life of 2-3 days. It has a short half life and is active in the system only a day after injection. Propionate is one of the componenets of the four testosterone ester blend sustanon, and, along with phenylpropionate, is the reason why more frequent injections are required with sustanon (to take full advantage of all esters in the blend). Propionate has the same benefits of every other testosterone along with the advantage of being fast acting. Another advantage of propionate when compared to other steroids is that the level of water retention and water based gains on cycle are lower when compared to counterparts such as testosterone enanthate or testosterone cypionate. The benefits of testosterone, such as improved muscle pumps can be seen very soon after propionate is administered due to its short half life and related length of activation.

Propionate does have a high rate of aromatization, similar to any other testosterone, and as a result, ancillary drugs such as nolvadex or its weaker counterpart clomid should be kept on hand during a cycle where propionate is included to stop gyno from occurring.
 
Let us know what is your status,years training, weight,height,diet, age all that will help the guys here know how to help you with your goals and cycle.
 
i just started a cycle of dbol and test E i am 45 190lbs 5ft6in been lifting for years but never tried seroids i have used and still use creatine so tell me if im wrong 4 dbols a day mon-fri off sat-sun and 1 ml of test shot mon and friday need advice .... i am benching 345max squat is so weak i dont want to even mention it that is one reason i decided to hit the dark side to grow theses wheels
 
i just started a cycle of dbol and test E i am 45 190lbs 5ft6in been lifting for years but never tried seroids i have used and still use creatine so tell me if im wrong 4 dbols a day mon-fri off sat-sun and 1 ml of test shot mon and friday need advice .... i am benching 345max squat is so weak i dont want to even mention it that is one reason i decided to hit the dark side to grow theses wheels

Don`t jump on no ones logs like that....start your own and read the rules of the forum...:redhot:
 
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Let us know what is your status,years training, weight,height,diet, age all that will help the guys here know how to help you with your goals and cycle.

pikiki, thanks for your reply i have been training on and off for a a couple of years, when i find the motivation to get into the gym , so far i've found that the prop has given me higher levels of motervation and drive to smash a work out daily . my weight is 96 kg im about 6ft and my diet is a high protein no carbs .

im also using winstrol .

your help would be more then appreciated thanks also some info about post cycle therapy (pct).

Thanks. JJ :elephant:
 
Bro my opinion and the most of the people here is that the first cycle should be test e or test c and nothing else to see how your body react to test and the sides if any. I will not use winstrol for first cycle or the prop. My friend I got here with the same questions that you had, do your homework and read steroids profile. Theres tons of info there that will help you understand better any steroids and ancillaries as well. Go to anabolic forum and read about first cycle and PCT by heavy iron I think is a great log and very helpfull for anyone. Eat like a Giant and make sure had a good intake of carbs and protein too. There is a nutrition section here with 3j`s nutrition he is the man to talk about a good diet. BTW, How old are you??
 
Bro my opinion and the most of the people here is that the first cycle should be test e or test c and nothing else to see how your body react to test and the sides if any. I will not use winstrol for first cycle or the prop. My friend I got here with the same questions that you had, do your homework and read steroids profile. Theres tons of info there that will help you understand better any steroids and ancillaries as well. Go to anabolic forum and read about first cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) by heavy iron I think is a great log and very helpfull for anyone. Eat like a Giant and make sure had a good intake of carbs and protein too. There is a nutrition section here with 3j`s nutrition he is the man to talk about a good diet. BTW, How old are you??


im 21 . and friends and others have told me togo with prop and winstrol to cut up and gaina little lean muscle.

today im ment to have pin of prop and the winstrol .
 
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