Ok I read it, but don't see it. Unless its the nolva 20mg ed for 4 weeks. ?
Starting 2nd cycle, need feedback
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Ok I read it, but don't see it. Unless its the nolva 20mg ed for 4 weeks. ?
No im not expecting to make a 30lb jump of this cycle but I figure I can get a good 15 maybe 20lbs of quality muscle. Its just helping me get there. This probably will be 1 of 2 cycles of 2012 cuz I need to be clean when I sign the middleweight contract. So im probably going to do a lower dose and longer cycle, like 15 wks. Now another question I have is should I front load, alot of ppl say front loading is helpful on a cycle like this. Not only that but how do u guys feel about cutting the gear with grapeseed oil to help with the pain for the first few weeks of pining. Any advice I can get is greatly appreciated
DADAWG
Community Veteran
never had to cut any long ester gear. im not a fan of frontloading , take that extra gear and run the cycle 2 weeks longer imo.
simpllyhuge
New member
I don't know what he said that was bad info either?
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Dr. Steal
Guest
Matt..
My last cycle I took 500 mg test E for 14 wks
I gained 27 lbs
Doing the amount of deca/test you are wanting to do for your second cycle is a HUGE jump.
Let me make an analogy. Going from 250 mg of sust to an 800/600 mg stack would be like entering an amateur jitz competition winning it then thinking you are ready to take on Jacre in a full gi Jitz competition... It is that big of a jump....
ok you may not be a bjj guy so here is another analogy...It would be like winning a tough man tournament and then jumping straight into the UFC..Bad idea...
My last cycle I took 500 mg test E for 14 wks
I gained 27 lbs
Doing the amount of deca/test you are wanting to do for your second cycle is a HUGE jump.
Let me make an analogy. Going from 250 mg of sust to an 800/600 mg stack would be like entering an amateur jitz competition winning it then thinking you are ready to take on Jacre in a full gi Jitz competition... It is that big of a jump....
ok you may not be a bjj guy so here is another analogy...It would be like winning a tough man tournament and then jumping straight into the UFC..Bad idea...
Phatbastard
Knowledge Equals Results
I Agree with Dawg on that!!!!!!!!
IMO I personally don't see an issue with you useing Test at 400mg and Deca at 300mg a week! More Isnt always better!
For those of you that disagree with that statement! Show your head so we all now your intelligence level. Cause you havent been around long enough to know this!
This is a man that incorrectly attempted a poor first cycle! So essentialy this is going to be a first real cycle! Think about that!
In my Opinion Test 400mg Deca 300mg once a week would be (or split for 2x a week for better blood levels) equivilent to and OLD Deca D-bal cycle! Those of us that were around when that was the MASTER BULK cycle (Dating My Self LOL) Will clearly see my point of view!
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Ok thanks for the info Dadawg.
Also P4P4 I didnt see any bad advice.
But dr.steal u made a good analogy bcuz I am a jits guy, thats actually one of the best parts of my game is my bjj. but, are u saying that doing that much gear will do more harm then good for me. And if so do u think I should do 500/400 or 600/450. Remember it did do an 8wk cycle of test cyp 500mg and deca 250mg every week. But that cycle was cut short at 8 wks rather then 12wks. But tell me what u think
Also P4P4 I didnt see any bad advice.
But dr.steal u made a good analogy bcuz I am a jits guy, thats actually one of the best parts of my game is my bjj. but, are u saying that doing that much gear will do more harm then good for me. And if so do u think I should do 500/400 or 600/450. Remember it did do an 8wk cycle of test cyp 500mg and deca 250mg every week. But that cycle was cut short at 8 wks rather then 12wks. But tell me what u think
balboa270
Amateur Bodybuilder
As I said reread all your info and correct yourself.......Never said you were wrong.....trying to get you to man up on bigherm for saying you gave wrong info lol
lol ahh i see isee damn i was wonderin, i supposed itd be too late now lol
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