Steak & Clenbuterol.... China is winning

Old news... Have heard of Clen being found in Trace amounts in certain meats.

Then again, isn't Finaplex aka good old Tren still used in cattle and used as food? And then yet again, Trenbolone unlike Clen isn't absorbed orally.

Moral of the story, stick to butcher meat not mass produced shit from Walmart or supermarket chains.
 
Old news... Have heard of Clen being found in Trace amounts in certain meats.

Then again, isn't Finaplex aka good old Tren still used in cattle and used as food? And then yet again, Trenbolone unlike Clen isn't absorbed orally.

Moral of the story, stick to butcher meat not mass produced shit from Walmart or supermarket chains.

Agreed factory farmed beef,chicken and pork is loaded with a bunch of hormones and antibiotics. I'm fortunate to live in a part of the country where I can get good old fashioned grass fed beef and other meats that aren't tainted by big industry.
 
Well that explains how Jacky Chan get his groove on so fast. Or at least used to.
 
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what would be the benefit of clenbuterol for cattle ? all that would do would speed up their metabolism and require them to eat more grain to maintain their weight . which would cost the ranchers more money.

where as Tren, makes total sense .. feed the cattle less and they still grow, and they won't lose the weight that they would normally lose during shipment on the way to slaughter ,, thus more profit for the ranchers.

Tren Steak ,, yummm
 
what would be the benefit of clenbuterol for cattle ? all that would do would speed up their metabolism and require them to eat more grain to maintain their weight . which would cost the ranchers more money.

where as Tren, makes total sense .. feed the cattle less and they still grow, and they won't lose the weight that they would normally lose during shipment on the way to slaughter ,, thus more profit for the ranchers.

Tren Steak ,, yummm

It's dumb and a TERRIBLE way to ensure stock remain "active" while in confined spaces. This used to be a much bigger problem as corporate ranchers would try to raise beef much like the poultry industry has done with chicken.

I believe it had been cited as a means of increasing LBM while sedentary, but I agree - that does sound ridiculous. This is also how the media has wrongly started calling clen a steroid, which anyone in the AAS scene knows isn't true. ;)

Lol, I'd be scared to see what tren steak would do to my daughter. :p Luckily, it's cooked out (or unluckily, depending on household composition) during preparation if any remained beyond slaughter/processing. :)
 
what would be the benefit of clenbuterol for cattle ? all that would do would speed up their metabolism and require them to eat more grain to maintain their weight . which would cost the ranchers more money.

where as Tren, makes total sense .. feed the cattle less and they still grow, and they won't lose the weight that they would normally lose during shipment on the way to slaughter ,, thus more profit for the ranchers.

Tren Steak ,, yummm

Yep... However, Tren alone, and this is according to a study IIRC makes the cattle actually not result in an ideal meat in the sense that Tren is such a little powerful thing that it crushes e2 to nothing without any Test/E2 that it ruins the famed and ultimately delicious marbling effect on the steaks... Seriously, and it makes sense. That's why the Tren+E2 cattle had a perfect type of marlbing to the outcome of the steak whilst producing quality meat...

It's a little off topic, but it's another reason why e2 is important.

Tren isn't absorbed in the GI anyay so no biggie, if it was, well I ain't exactly "hormone free staunch" lol...
 
I thought clen was a bovine analgesic..or am I sleep deprived. I like stuff in my meat and poultry . Feel as if I m getting free stuff. Always s thought diet should be cheaper though as ur not getting that good refined white death sugar.

It s media driven alarmist propaganda...I m sure Lowdose will wade in with some wisdom...bet u a rep point.
 
what would be the benefit of clenbuterol for cattle ? all that would do would speed up their metabolism and require them to eat more grain to maintain their weight . which would cost the ranchers more money.

where as Tren, makes total sense .. feed the cattle less and they still grow, and they won't lose the weight that they would normally lose during shipment on the way to slaughter ,, thus more profit for the ranchers.

Tren Steak ,, yummm

Tren Jerky,
Tren meat cocktail...
Tren Bacon..
Tren Bacon bits....
It's like forest Gump, the list goes on and on.....
 
Yep... However, Tren alone, and this is according to a study IIRC makes the cattle actually not result in an ideal meat in the sense that Tren is such a little powerful thing that it crushes e2 to nothing without any Test/E2 that it ruins the famed and ultimately delicious marbling effect on the steaks... Seriously, and it makes sense. That's why the Tren+E2 cattle had a perfect type of marlbing to the outcome of the steak whilst producing quality meat...

It's a little off topic, but it's another reason why e2 is important.

Tren isn't absorbed in the GI anyay so no biggie, if it was, well I ain't exactly "hormone free staunch" lol...

Actually you would use the fini pellets to bulk the animal while feeding grass. The grass is cheap thats where the feed efficiency of the tren comes into play. Then you would want to finish it with corn and grains thats where you get the nice marble affect that people want.

One of the ways I could see tren being banned in cattle is there is trace amounts making it into streams then fish.

The epa has studies on this subject. Then a university by a friends farm also has found this to be true through testing of their own.
 
It's hard to find ethical meats now in days specially here in NY. There are live poultry shops and I'm sure even those shops have chickens that have been injected with antibiotics and arsenics
 
Actually you would use the fini pellets to bulk the animal while feeding grass. The grass is cheap thats where the feed efficiency of the tren comes into play. Then you would want to finish it with corn and grains thats where you get the nice marble affect that people want.

One of the ways I could see tren being banned in cattle is there is trace amounts making it into streams then fish.

The epa has studies on this subject. Then a university by a friends farm also has found this to be true through testing of their own.

Hmm makes sense, but ofcourse Tren doesen't aromatase and would shut down all natural Test/E2 and E2 is responsible for fat deposition? I can only assume on that one but you learn something new everyday!

Bit of a worry that it finds it's way into waterways, but then again think of all the pesticides and shit that the human race produces that we consume that ends up in the water ways... Scary!

In all honesty, I find the pesticides, anti-bs and other shit that is actually harmful more of an issue that AAS in our drinking water and food that we consume...
 
Of course pesticides and human waste is worse. All I'm stating are facts about raising cattle. A good friend of mine has hundreds of head of cattle and he knows his shit or should I say manure.

My friend doesn't use pellets anymore. He went organic.

Organic beef is far more valuable.
 
The quality of beef is how it's fed and raised. The crap that people buy at most places is fed a shit load of corn and raised in factory farm conditions. The more a heffer or steer is stressed the tougher the meat. I'm sure alot of people have bought a badass looking steak marked choice then no matter how you cook it you're not happy with the 30 bucks you wasted.

The tren speeds up the bulking process by roughly 6 months. And considering the cost of the implants versus feeding for 6 more months is a no brainer.

You can't be certified organic if you use implants.

For the taste I don't believe there is a difference. It all comes down to how your animal is raised.

Look up kobe beef from japan. The cattle get massages to keep the animal relaxed. Their given beer every day I think it's something to do with the barley or hops for help with bulking.
 
So essentially it comes down to the good old Tren/AAS only supplement the nutritional regime ;)

I've heard of the stress = reduced quality of meat, but massages and beer... Makes sense actually lol
 
So essentially it comes down to the good old Tren/AAS only supplement the nutritional regime ;)

I've heard of the stress = reduced quality of meat, but massages and beer... Makes sense actually lol

Yeah it's pretty interesting. You can go on YouTube under kobe beef japan there's multiple videos on the subject.

There's one it's in the first ten that shows them massaging the cows and giving them beer. Check it out.
 
All this talk about steaks made me go and get mine out of the freezer lol
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by the way thats a 3 pound one and a 2 pound one, soon to be smothered in A1 Sauce :naughty:

Now that there are some steaks. Damn I'm gonna have to pull some out of my freezer for the grill tomorrow.

Holy smokes those are some nice ginormous steaks.

I'm jealous lol.
 
Milton those steaks look like some seriously good chow ! All the local butchers I usually go to have shut shop, so I had to go with supermarket chicken and mince today :bawling:

Yeah it's pretty interesting. You can go on YouTube under kobe beef japan there's multiple videos on the subject.

There's one it's in the first ten that shows them massaging the cows and giving them beer. Check it out.

I'll have to watch it for the novelty itself haha, but what an awesome way to live as cattle consdering all the mass production cattle going on.

Would love to try massaged, juiced, beer drinking, wholesome fed cattle... That would make a fine piece of steak :roll:
 
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