Still Love Juice/Hate Gyno!
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3J
Super Moderator
now I just feel cheep
they all do the first time... lmfao
Die$eL~Man
Straight Up Gangster !
i would go with fermara / letro
I didnt know the qualitys of mast.Interesting profile.
Masteron: Known Name Brands:
Drolban, Masterid, Masteron, Mastisol, Metormon, Permastril,
Description: Masteron, otherwise known as drostanolone propionate, regularly comes 100 mg. in a 2 cc ampule. Masteron is a synthetic derivative of dihydrotestosterone
which keeps Masteron from aromatizing at any dosage. This means no gyno since it will not be converted into estrogens. Masteron is a strong
androgenic steroid that has anti-estrogenic characteristics. For bodybuilders at a very low fat level, Masteron will add a dramatic hardness and sharpness to
your muscles. Masteron is most commonly used as a precontest steroid but it will work as a mass steroid as well. This steroid will only show up on a drug test
for 10-11 days after administering it as well. It also has the tendency not to cause water retention either. Side effects are kept to a minimum while on Masteron
as well. It will not cause liver damage and since it will not aromatize, gyno is not a problem either. The main side effects are the normal ones like acne and
accelerated hair loss since it is a derivative of DHT. It would be wise to use Nizoral shampoo while taking any DHT derivatives to keep this at a minimum.
Effective Dose: 100 mgs. injected everyother day or at least every three days.
Street Price:
Stacking Info: This drug is commonly stacked with Primobolan, Winstrol, Parabolan, or oxandrolone for a cutting or precontest cycle. If you are one a mass
cycle, it is commonly stacked with some form of testosterone.
Masteron: Known Name Brands:
Drolban, Masterid, Masteron, Mastisol, Metormon, Permastril,
Description: Masteron, otherwise known as drostanolone propionate, regularly comes 100 mg. in a 2 cc ampule. Masteron is a synthetic derivative of dihydrotestosterone
which keeps Masteron from aromatizing at any dosage. This means no gyno since it will not be converted into estrogens. Masteron is a strong
androgenic steroid that has anti-estrogenic characteristics. For bodybuilders at a very low fat level, Masteron will add a dramatic hardness and sharpness to
your muscles. Masteron is most commonly used as a precontest steroid but it will work as a mass steroid as well. This steroid will only show up on a drug test
for 10-11 days after administering it as well. It also has the tendency not to cause water retention either. Side effects are kept to a minimum while on Masteron
as well. It will not cause liver damage and since it will not aromatize, gyno is not a problem either. The main side effects are the normal ones like acne and
accelerated hair loss since it is a derivative of DHT. It would be wise to use Nizoral shampoo while taking any DHT derivatives to keep this at a minimum.
Effective Dose: 100 mgs. injected everyother day or at least every three days.
Street Price:
Stacking Info: This drug is commonly stacked with Primobolan, Winstrol, Parabolan, or oxandrolone for a cutting or precontest cycle. If you are one a mass
cycle, it is commonly stacked with some form of testosterone.
Shaptown
Bringer of Doom
ok i'm sorry, but no. masteron will not prevent prolactin induced gyno.yes, it will potentially reduce prolactin levels, but that does not have the efficacy of a D2, D3, and D4 dopamine receptor full agonist (pramipexole).
plus, you cannot develop prolactin induced gyno without enough estrogen. this is why adex is a horrible choice in this cycle. Plus its going to disrupt his lipid profile.
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WOW!
I appreciate all the responses. I am in grad school and box at gg level and do some bb competitions however i am 6'2 which means I could stand to be bigger.
At any rate, I am running 1.8 a week and as for not understanding the gyno it hasn't been as pervasive an issue in the past and when it has been ive used letro which i hate. I am talking about ameridex and i have letro to get ride of the gyno at the end i just hate the stuff because it kills my sex drive
I will try running 40mg of novladex (i have yet to see any studies that say it as adsorbates gyno related to tren) and add 1mg of ameridex eod if it doesnt work ill drop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) bomb (letro) on it.
I will post an update thread in a week to two. thank you for insight and further response
I appreciate all the responses. I am in grad school and box at gg level and do some bb competitions however i am 6'2 which means I could stand to be bigger.
At any rate, I am running 1.8 a week and as for not understanding the gyno it hasn't been as pervasive an issue in the past and when it has been ive used letro which i hate. I am talking about ameridex and i have letro to get ride of the gyno at the end i just hate the stuff because it kills my sex drive
I will try running 40mg of novladex (i have yet to see any studies that say it as adsorbates gyno related to tren) and add 1mg of ameridex eod if it doesnt work ill drop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) bomb (letro) on it.
I will post an update thread in a week to two. thank you for insight and further response
Shaptown
Bringer of Doom
WOW!
I appreciate all the responses. I am in grad school and box at gg level and do some bb competitions however i am 6'2 which means I could stand to be bigger.
At any rate, I am running 1.8 a week and as for not understanding the gyno it hasn't been as pervasive an issue in the past and when it has been ive used letro which i hate. I am talking about ameridex and i have letro to get ride of the gyno at the end i just hate the stuff because it kills my sex drive
I will try running 40mg of novladex (i have yet to see any studies that say it as adsorbates gyno related to tren) and add 1mg of ameridex eod if it doesnt work ill drop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) bomb (letro) on it.
I will post an update thread in a week to two. thank you for insight and further response
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT RUN NOLVA WHILE YOU ARE ON TREN.
3J
Super Moderator
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT RUN NOLVA WHILE YOU ARE ON TREN.
yea... big time... that's gonna mess u up...
BUMP for good advice
Live2Train
New member
Shit man I have the same trouble as you. I am sick of this, the nipples get all puffy and sore and hurt like hell and I'm only on 650mg of Test E and 76mg of Tren EOD. I run 1/2 mg of adex ED and about 1/8 mg of letro ED and still not going away. I don't know what the hell is up with me. Sorry bro, I am not hijacking your thread, as I'm not really looking for advice, because I don't think there is any anyone can give me besides cut the cycle way short. I notice as soon as I cut it short if goes away within a month on the same dose of adex and Letro that I'm taking now, so I think I will just try and run this one out for the duration and see if it gets worse. If it gets worse then I will cut it short. I can't believe I am this sensitive to AS. I have bros that take 1500 mgs of Test E per week and quite a bit of Tren and D bol as well and never get shit from it. I'm a sad excuse for a user I guess
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3J
Super Moderator
Shit man I have the same trouble as you. I am sick of this, the nipples get all puffy and sore and hurt like hell and I'm only on 650mg of Test E and 76mg of Tren EOD. I run 1/2 mg of adex ED and about 1/8 mg of letro ED and still not going away. I don't know what the hell is up with me. Sorry bro, I am not hijacking your thread, as I'm not really looking for advice, because I don't think there is any anyone can give me besides cut the cycle way short. I notice as soon as I cut it short if goes away within a month on the same dose of adex and Letro that I'm taking now, so I think I will just try and run this one out for the duration and see if it gets worse. If it gets worse then I will cut it short. I can't believe I am this sensitive to AS. I have bros that take 1500 mgs of Test E per week and quite a bit of Tren and D bol as well and never get shit from it. I'm a sad excuse for a user I guess
might wana look into some caber.. sounds like progest issues..
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
sounds about right-especially if the letro isnt working.
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
BTW where the hell did the rep power go?
3J
Super Moderator
who gives a shit.. all the better that its gone... people worry about that crap too much... it becomes political crap... people reping each other just cuz... so that others can rep them.. unwarrented system imo..
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
fair enough-just wondering where the hell it went-didnt know they took it down-took me 9 months to get to level 3
I've used to letro before to remove gyno following this protocol. I just hate doing bc goodbye erections (w/o liquid cialis) and part of the fun of a cycle is the wild sex drive and making your girlfriend turned on.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **
** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone.Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.
Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.
Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERM.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **
** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone.Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.
Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.
Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or SERM.
Live2Train
New member
Yeah, where the fuck did my rep power go. I had no idea that it could go down. I have not given anyone any misinformation or anything so I really don't get it, but oh well I guess it's not that big of a deal. It is good for when new sources do checks on your though. Now that I think of it, it is BS.
About the caber I used it last time and still had the same effects using Tren and Teset. I used caber and Aromasin and still got the puffy sore ass nipples, I guess I am just one sensitive bastard and should lay off the AAS for good. After this cycle I will just do Anavar at higher doses and see how that works, because this is getting a bit ridiculous. Thanks for the help guys, but have already been down that road to no avail.
About the caber I used it last time and still had the same effects using Tren and Teset. I used caber and Aromasin and still got the puffy sore ass nipples, I guess I am just one sensitive bastard and should lay off the AAS for good. After this cycle I will just do Anavar at higher doses and see how that works, because this is getting a bit ridiculous. Thanks for the help guys, but have already been down that road to no avail.
3J
Super Moderator
i dont even know how i got to level 4.. how does this crap work??
i feel like a computer nerd playing warcraft.. hahahahaha
