Stop Eating After 6:00???
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Mrrippedzilla
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I didn't realise you would take my statement to the extreme but okay
A 1997 article titled "Meal frequency and energy balance" (Bellisle, McDevitt, Prentice) showed that meal pattern has no effect on bodyweight changes (bulk/cut) provided your calories are on the right side (surplus/deficit). So yes, you can still pack on the muscle in 1 meal (how comfortable you'll be is another story).
There is some evidence that consuming around 20g protein every 2-3 hours will help keep you in a positive protein balance ONLY if your protein intake is insufficient to begin with. So regular protein only helps if your overall intake is shit (terrible diet).
However, I will make one exception to my "nutrient timing doesn't matter" statement and that concerns workout timing. If your bulking the only reason "timing" will matter is if you train fasted and don't eat afterwards (why the fuck would you do this anyway?). There is evidence that the anabolic response after training is shut down if your in a fasted state and don't consume a meal between 1-3 hours after your workout (THIS ONLY APPLIES IF YOUR FASTED AND STAY FASTED AFTER, if you had a pre workout meal - the postworkout can be delayed further). I also suggest consuming some sort of protein/carb source before training because otherwise (as Dreday pointed out) the intensity suffers, so less gains.
So, to summarize....if your protein intake is sufficient and macros are on target, as long as your not training fasted & not eating anything aftwerwards - nutrient timing is completely irrelevant. So yes, if your 1 meal a day is a preworkout meal - your body recomposition results will be the same.
If anyone disagrees with this - show me some evidence and I'll happily consider it
I didn't realise you would take my statement to the extreme but okay
A 1997 article titled "Meal frequency and energy balance" (Bellisle, McDevitt, Prentice) showed that meal pattern has no effect on bodyweight changes (bulk/cut) provided your calories are on the right side (surplus/deficit). So yes, you can still pack on the muscle in 1 meal (how comfortable you'll be is another story).
There is some evidence that consuming around 20g protein every 2-3 hours will help keep you in a positive protein balance ONLY if your protein intake is insufficient to begin with. So regular protein only helps if your overall intake is shit (terrible diet).
However, I will make one exception to my "nutrient timing doesn't matter" statement and that concerns workout timing. If your bulking the only reason "timing" will matter is if you train fasted and don't eat afterwards (why the fuck would you do this anyway?). There is evidence that the anabolic response after training is shut down if your in a fasted state and don't consume a meal between 1-3 hours after your workout (THIS ONLY APPLIES IF YOUR FASTED AND STAY FASTED AFTER, if you had a pre workout meal - the postworkout can be delayed further). I also suggest consuming some sort of protein/carb source before training because otherwise (as Dreday pointed out) the intensity suffers, so less gains.
So, to summarize....if your protein intake is sufficient and macros are on target, as long as your not training fasted & not eating anything aftwerwards - nutrient timing is completely irrelevant. So yes, if your 1 meal a day is a preworkout meal - your body recomposition results will be the same.
If anyone disagrees with this - show me some evidence and I'll happily consider it
I've seen evidence of not only that but with more frequent feeding your response to the protein (protein synthesis) is blunted ie you get a smaller spike in protein synthesis with more meals. It balances out in a way since if you eat fewer times you get less but bigger spikes.
Here is one objective look into nutrient timing
JISSN | Full text | Nutrient timing revisited: is there a post-exercise anabolic window?
JISSN | Full text | Nutrient timing revisited: is there a post-exercise anabolic window?
China_Wall
New member
^^agree^^ just because I have a hard time believing that the body could digest/utilize 4000 calories at one sitting
The point that's usually missed in these arguments is that digestion and absorption is partly a function of food intake volume. Eat smaller more frequent meals and the body goes through it quicker. That's why 6-8meals a day is associated with DECREASED satiety. Now with fewer but larger meals or 1 big meal, there is a 'braking system' within the body to slow digestion and absorption to allow all nutrients to get processed. It's called the ileal tract and it sits in the small intestine. The ileal tract slows or speeds up the speed with which food passes through the gut allowing it to process all 4000 cals or whatever in one meal.
Look into the Warrior Diet and IF. People have had tremendous success with those diets and the Warrior Diet advocates 1 big meal per day post training.
Don't believe that crap at all. There's no magic number one can absorb in a sitting. Here's a good explanation:
Is there a limit to how much protein the body can use in a single meal? | Wannabebig
Strong Man
Over Train
I eat right before I go to sleep. If you want to grow then eat. 6oclock thing is a much of crap. EAT!!!
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