Stopped EC stack/Clen feeling....

[hiram1st]

Ok so I'm currently running a blast of test e 250mg E3.5D and tren A 70mg ED. Was taking ephedrine/caffeine stack @ 30mg/300mg 2xday and clen 100mcg 2xday stopped those yesterday.

Today I feel like shit really dragging. Shoukd I expect to feel like this for a couple days? I would have thought being on the blast that I really wouldn't have this worn out feeling.

Thanks

 

[halfwit]

Just your body readjusting to the lack of agonists beating on your adrenals. Take advantage if you can, and get a really good night's sleep. I don't remember if I mentioned it before, but adding in a maintenance dose of T3 will certainly help.

My .02c

 

[hiram1st]

Just your body readjusting to the lack of agonists beating on your adrenals. Take advantage if you can, and get a really good night's sleep. I don't remember if I mentioned it before, but adding in a maintenance dose of T3 will certainly help.

My .02c

Thanks for the insight I was thinking along those basic lines but as always you come in and clarify things .

I am and have been on the t3 75mcg since the beginning of the blast.

Thanks again

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Why exactly were you running both EC and clen together - considering all this is going to do is accelerate beta receptor downregulation & make the "fall" once you come off them even worse?

EC OR clen - not both.

 

[snowpatrol123]

Wow...200mcg of clen plus ephedrine...your poor ticker

 

[hiram1st]

Why exactly were you running both EC and clen together - considering all this is going to do is accelerate beta receptor downregulation & make the "fall" once you come off them even worse?

EC OR clen - not both.

The old more is better approach and again it isn't. Started the lean bulk blast and was afraid of putting bf back on worked to hard and long to want to see that happen.
I learned the hard way again.

Thanks for the info zilla_

 

[hiram1st]

Wow...200mcg of clen plus ephedrine...your poor ticker

Lol. I've always been very tolerant to stimulants from past experimentation. Started the clen at 40mcg 2x a day and worked up go 100mcg that's where I started to get some mild sides so I settled there. To much?

 

[snowpatrol123]

Lol. I've always been very tolerant to stimulants from past experimentation. Started the clen at 40mcg 2x a day and worked up go 100mcg that's where I started to get some mild sides so I settled there. To much?

It may have been underdosed, I know I could get pretty high using RC clen but if you had HG or properly dosed UGL that's quite a bit

 

[Manski]

He should be rotating the ephedrine and clen. Two weeks of clen then switch to two weeks of ephedrine then repeat.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

He should be rotating the ephedrine and clen. Two weeks of clen then switch to two weeks of ephedrine then repeat.

No he shouldn't.

In what way are the receptors going to recover if you hop off clen straight to ec or visa versa considering BOTH act on the beta receptors?

The answer is they wont, which means neither of those compounds will work like they should - if at all.

 

[Manski]

No he shouldn't.

In what way are the receptors going to recover if you hop off clen straight to ec or visa versa considering BOTH act on the beta receptors?

The answer is they wont, which means neither of those compounds will work like they should - if at all.[/QUOTE
your body adapts to clen very fast. After two weeks clen will be ineffective. So rotating the ephedrine / and clen is the way to go. Running all that at the same time is very dangerous anyway. Read the clen profile on this forum.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

your body adapts to clen very fast. After two weeks clen will be ineffective. So rotating the ephedrine / and clen is the way to go. Running all that at the same time is very dangerous anyway. Read the clen profile on this forum.

That's why the recommended protocol is 2 weeks on/OFF with clen - not simply swapping it out for another beta agonist.

It's 2 weeks on/off on Clen, clen with Ketotifen full time or ec full time.
The rotating bullshit doesn't work and if the drug profile on this site does recommend it then it's wrong - fact.

 

[JimiThing]

Ripped is correct. People mistakenly think that ephedrine doesnt hit beta receptors but it does, thus accelerating the ineffectiveness of b2 agonists like clen and albuterol.

 

[bigben66]

So you were on Tren, ECA and Clen....

Holy shit OP... that's a 3-pronged sweat-fest right there buddy.

Any palpitations or BP issues?

 

[hiram1st]

LOL no issues other than the no appitite and really fatigued.

But since this post I realized I was still on my second course of anibiotics fir a nagging sinus infection. The first was a z pack and didn't clear it so I was prescribed sulfame based antibiotics and I looked it up and all the sides I was having could have been caused fron it. I finished it up 2 days ago and I'm feeling great now.

I'm glad I posted now I know never to combine those 2 things again.

Learn something new here everyday

 

[jozifp103]

Your adrenals are fried most likely. Should feel better soon. Just rest up and go lighter on the weights for a week or so.

 

[Manski]

That's why the recommended protocol is 2 weeks on/OFF with clen - not simply swapping it out for another beta agonist.

It's 2 weeks on/off on Clen, clen with Ketotifen full time or ec full time.
The rotating bullshit doesn't work and if the drug profile on this site does recommend it then it's wrong - fact.

Ok, I stand corrected. Great post.