SubQ vs IM ?
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MoparMuscle
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I like once every 5 days personally. IM
mlc31
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I'm every 5 days as well (IM) with HCG the day before each shot. Seems to be working great.
JohnnyVegas
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I am IM all the way, twice a week. No pain, seems perfect to me.
Thanks Guys- I had trouble with IM so a friend told me to go this route and I did. That was about 6-7 months ago and has been good to me. My levels were all over the board-even though I was doing 1-2 doses per week IM. I started at 1 cc ( 200 mg/ml) per month and didn't feel much at all. Then I moved to 100 mg per week IM and felt good but I was dipping a bit to say the least. Next I was twice a week ( 50 mg) . Same deal. So- long story short- I am now twice a week subQ and it seems to do the trick. ( for now lol) Was also thinking about eth instead of cyp ? Any advantages ? Thanks
I didnt like the Sub-Q
I tried it for a few weeks. Been done with it for over a month now and can still feel the spots/deposits in my fat. It does not absorb like HCG, or something in water. The oils sticks around.
I Just took the little insulin pins I had already loaded and go IM into my shoulders. Reason is it is my leanest spot. Seems to be another option, and you dont have to do it as often as sub-q.
Loading those little bastards is kind of a pain though.
I tried it for a few weeks. Been done with it for over a month now and can still feel the spots/deposits in my fat. It does not absorb like HCG, or something in water. The oils sticks around.
I Just took the little insulin pins I had already loaded and go IM into my shoulders. Reason is it is my leanest spot. Seems to be another option, and you dont have to do it as often as sub-q.
Loading those little bastards is kind of a pain though.
CHIP WADOWSKI
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Injectable oils and water based, for that matter, (due to clogging) were not meant to be shot with PUSSY PINS. Why does everyone ALWAYS feel like the need to fix a wheel that isn't broke...?????
Hmmm, Havent heard of any clogging. Definatly harder to push.
I had read a lot on here off and on about the sub-q stuff so gave it a try. Its not for me. No one seemed to be giving any kind of reports on it for any length of time.
If I never tried anything new, or looked for options I never would have found testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and still would be stuck feeling like turd soup
I had read a lot on here off and on about the sub-q stuff so gave it a try. Its not for me. No one seemed to be giving any kind of reports on it for any length of time.
If I never tried anything new, or looked for options I never would have found testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and still would be stuck feeling like turd soup
CHIP WADOWSKI
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Clogging in regard to test suspension, injectable stanazolol, and or injectatable oxandrolone (when and if that drug is even available anymore). Unless cut 2:1 with b-12, ALL of those drugs WILL clog in a 23 g pin so I can only imagine a slin pin.
Natehayes
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I don't think anyone mentioned using any of those substances, just test cyp.
I agree with the poster that said trying new things and being open led him to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). Sometimes there really seems to be a "That's the way it's always been done and therefor it's the only way" kind of mentality floating around here.
I have been using slin pins for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for more than year with test cyp and absolutely never had a clogging issue. I like the slin pins because I like the stable levels I get from injecting 3 times a week.
I'm lean, why should I use a big gauge needle? To prove to someone on an internet message board I'm a man and scar my muscles as much as possible with an unnecessarily large gauge needle?
CHIP WADOWSKI
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NO ONE EVER MADE THE STATEMENT THAT TEST CYP HAS OR WILL CLOG. RE READ POST. I'M NOT BEING A SMART ASS HERE, NATE, BUT HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY SEEN THE INSIDE OF A HUMAN BODY....? AUTOPSY STYLE...? THE VISUAL APPEARANCE OF SUB-Q FAT vs. THAT OF ACTUAL MUSCLE TISSUE? I HAVE. ONCE YOU'VE BEEN PRIVY TO VIEW THATIT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO YOU AS TO WHY IM IS SUPERIOR TO SUB-Q. AGAIN, JUST MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION. SOME PEOPLE SWEAR BY MOBIL-1, SOME PEOPLE SWEAR BY PENNZOIL.
Natehayes
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I was not talking about test cyp either in my post. You mentioned a bunch of other substances that clog up small gauge needles and my point was no one was ever talking about those only test cyp. If you reread you will see it is confusing.
i'm not trying to offend you or be a smart ass either, especially because I was not entirely clear in my post. Although I use slin pins I do IM injections (delts, lats, thighs). I am curious about sub-q injections, but have similar reservations as you. I have wound up with a lump for a day or two from peptide sub q injections and that is a super TINY amount of fluid so a big pocket of oil sub q makes me nervous too.
Sorry if there was a misunderstanding, but I get a little steamed up someone says the only way to do injections is IM with a large gauge needle. I think for those guys on cycle it is probably the only way to get that much oil in, but since we are talking about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) here the amount of oil is much smaller and I, personally, think a sln pin is a much better choice for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) if you are lean enough to get away with it.
CHIP WADOWSKI
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Bro,
personally, i'd go with a 25g about 3/4 deep, then you split the difference . Less pain and scar tissue build up, and the confidence that you really did still get im. Just thought. Good luck
personally, i'd go with a 25g about 3/4 deep, then you split the difference . Less pain and scar tissue build up, and the confidence that you really did still get im. Just thought. Good luck
Natehayes
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I will give it a try, if you think it's worth it. What length needle?
Right now I am using 1/2" slin pins and I bury that thing in to make sure it's IM. So far so good, but on my next pin order I will grab some of the pins you are talking about.
CHIP WADOWSKI
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JOWS6
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I've always liked that quote especially since it is geared towards the car enthusiast. However, while we should'nt fix something that isn't broken a car will always need a tune-up from time to time. That is how i view this situation. We arent fixing a problem wih IM injections but tweaking it to observe any benefits.
MoparMuscle
Amateur Bodybuilder
I don't understand even trying subq when we all know IM works. No benefit in my
mind at all.
mind at all.
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