Austinite
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They're different compounds. Best of both worlds with less side effects than running one at 100 mg. 50 off each will yield much better results together. Certainly not for an average cycler.
SUper High Dosage cycles 4,000+ mg/weekly. EXPERIENCED USERS/COMPETITIORS ONLY
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They're different compounds. Best of both worlds with less side effects than running one at 100 mg. 50 off each will yield much better results together. Certainly not for an average cycler.
Dreaded Pirate Roberts
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I have a bit of experience in what your calling super high doses. The truth is there is no need for the high doses. More is not better. The body can't process that much gear it's just a waste. The excess androgens are going to have negative effects on your body. 100 mg of dball could kill you. Your blood pressure will be threw the roof. Where are you going to go from here. What will you next cycle include a trip to the cardiologist. Post cycle therapy ? very few will be able to recover from a cycle like the one your planning unless igf-1lr3 is run the whole cycle.
I'm questioning what your goal is and weather the health risks are worth it.
I'm questioning what your goal is and weather the health risks are worth it.
MeatHead96
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I have run up to 2g of test and other compounds and sides just got way worse for me with no further gains. Low test and tren for me with some GH. No need to go crazy with doses. Live and learn.
Austinite
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All valid questions in regards to safety.
With respect to "wasted doses", are you referring to orals and their bioavailability?
Needtogetaas
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UM...... I think your statements not exactly 100% correct my friend. All steroids that have an anabolic effect do effect the joints and absolutely effect collagen synthesis although some to a lesser and some to a greater degree. Anabolic-androgenic steroids have 2 main effects. The first is an anabolic effect that occurs by stimulating an increase in nitrogen resulting in a positive nitrogen balance with an outcome of increased protein production. This positive nitrogen balance has been shown to result in effects on the musculoskeletal system; influencing lean body mass, muscle size, strength, protein and bone metabolism, as well as collagen sythesis.
boldenone und increases procollagenIII levels, which are a prime indicator of collagen synthesis, by about 340% when adm. at 2-3mg/kg. Nandrolone increases procollagenIII levels by 270%. So in that regard, eq is the superior drug and this is backed by studies good friend.
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - , Primobolan - methenolone - , anavar, and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate, they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. gh - growth hormone (somatropin) they all effect joints in a positive way.
Certain effects seen in androgens suggest that AAS may protect against thrombosis.These effects include an increase in plasminogen activator and serum levels of plasminogen, protein C and antithrombin III. despite these increased effects, studies analyzing these results have not shown a decrease in coagulation events with the use of AAS therapy alone.
https://www.uic.edu/pharmacy/services/di/methamphetamine.htm
I think your awesome and its great to have you around to help people I respect anyone who gives their time to others like you do. I look forward to adding as much as I can around here as well as learning as much as i can as I always have. Much respect for you sr.
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Needtogetaas
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Should deff run something like N2guard during this cycle.
Austinite
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Thanks for the kind words.
Procollagen type III is located in human skin, lungs and stomach.
Respect is mutual.
Needtogetaas
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Mist the edit lol
Needtogetaas
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I note booked this thread for that reason bro. I will get to this for sure but I am feeling lazy right now... I will admit most of the studies I have seen where with horses however that does not mean it can not do the same for humans.
Austinite
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Ah. Sounded like you had some readily available. I'll check the thread as well as I am very intrigued. I've studied this compound fairly well (at least I thought I did), but never came across any conclusory on the topic.
MikeInAustin
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I have been cruising on 270 mg of sustanon for the last month. I'm only cruising on 125 mg for approx. 2-3 weeks until I start blasting again. I'm still toying with the cruising dosages but I seem to be maintaining pretty well on 125 mg week. Although, I'm starting to feel a bit lower on energy and I'm actually getting sore again with my workouts.
Haven't read the 2nd page yet but probably referring to some "androgen recpetor saturation" or something. That said, if your dbol is legit OP you should never need 100mg and if you did run 100mg you would need letro and asin combined at least on top of that test.
As far as what I would (generally) do...
weeks 1-15 10-12iu gh 3x weekly
weeks 15-30 6-8iu gh ed split into two doses
weeks 1-30 2000mg test
weeks 1-15 1500 mg nandrolone (or 800/800 EQ/deca)
weeks 15-30 Tren 800
weeks 15-30 1-Test 800
Weeks 15-30 50mcg T3 (or 30-40mcg throughout)
Anadrol/Dbol to start
SD/Tbol in the middle
Anavar at the end
proly throw in some slin at the beginning as well on gh/lagging body part days.
Edit: this is general outline of something I may run for those goals...would change a few things around but you get the idea
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Damn, I am taking EQ for its ability to increase my collagen synthesis. Not trying to hijack this thread, but I have bird bones, with sewing thread tendons, and little girl origins and insertions...suffice to say--I am prone to injury. Other than HGH, what is going to increase the "cross-linked" collagen synthesis?
Austinite
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Lysine injections.
Austinite, though very little has been derived from the study of beta thymosin in humans, would it be reasonable to assume that there is some cross-linked collagen depositional activity?
Even mixed with the effects of Anavar? So, i'm going into a meet squatting over 700 no wraps with no collagen protection?
That is exactly what I am concerned about. I thought that EQ was warding off the collagen destructive effects of test.
Austinite
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Not that I'm aware of. Nothing evident there. Accelerate lysyl oxidase formation. That's as up to date as I get with cross linking. Maybe we'll know more soon.
