Sust / Deca / D-bol

Dark_Side

Dark_Side

over into the darkside
I've just planned out my first cycle of d-bol, deca and sustanol.

age: 24
weight: 195
height: 6'
bf: 10%
training experience: 4 years
cycle experience: PH's only (M1T, 1ad, 4ad, tren, superdrol...etc)
planned ancillaries: clomid/hcg
goals with this cycle: I want to be able to maintain 205-210 easily after the cycle around 8%b/f

1-5 D-bol 40mg ED (10mg x4 spread out)
1-14 Deca 400mg/ week (133mg mon/wed/fri)
1-16 Sustanol 600mg/ week (200mg mon/wed/fri)
14-18 D-bol 40mg ED (10mg x4 spread out)
1-17 HCG 500ui's/week (2x 250ui shots mon/thurs)
1-17 Arimidex .5mg ED
18- Exemestane 12.5mg ED

PCT
18 HCG 500ui's ED
19-20 Clomid 100mg ED (300mg first day), Nolva 40mg ED
21-22 Clomid 50mg ED, Nolva 20mg ED
23- Clomid 50mg ED

I ended up getting extra deca (got a few deca 300mg/ml instead of 200mg/ml I ordered)
I was thinking of starting the deca 3 weeks early because its going to take a bit to kick in anyways, rather then taking a higher dose on the cycle or letting it go to waste. So the deca would be -3 to 14 weeks. 17 weeks total

I'm going to make a deca/sus cocktail for mon/wed/fri
I was thinking about injecting right glut, right delt, left glut, left delt....
Or should I just stick with the gluts and rotate?

I was just going to do some Hard dieting afterwards to cut, not decided yet. Be nice to use a hardener, maybe do Anavar weeks 15-18 50mg ED?
 
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for a first cycle i wouldn't suggest it. but you have it put together well.
very nice.
just 2 things

1 i would run the hcg thru the cycle and 2 pct starts 3 weeks after last pin. due to the sust.
 
cyto33 said:
for a first cycle i wouldn't suggest it. but you have it put together well.
very nice.
just 2 things

1 i would run the hcg thru the cycle and 2 pct starts 3 weeks after last pin. due to the sust.
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Going for a good bulk :)

Yeah, I was planning on running the hcg threw the pct but someone told me that its better to get it in you ahead of time. I'll switch it. I've used it before and had great results with it.

half the people say 2 weeks, half say 3 weeks, so I'll prob just go in between. last pin is on a friday, start the pct on a fresh week.
 
Updated for cyto.

that was my original plan.

You think starting the deca 3 weeks early would be np?

Does the Var look like it would be good to add in?
 
do start the deca before the Sustanon (sust). start at the same time just the way you have planned it out.
as for Var witht his cycle its a waste of money your bulking.
if i was to add something i would add 2 sets of dbol.
week
1-5 Dbol 40mg ed

and at the end, run into pct.
end of week 14(after deca end) into day before post cycle therapy (pct).

sust is my favorite compound blend. and for sure with the long esters its 3 weeks.
 
That is one hell of a first run..you are gonna explode..nice lay out..that was my favorite combo...
Strength size libido...all will go up..waaay up.
 
im running a similar cycle coming up but this will be my 2nd. im going with 750 sust/400 deca/30 mg dbol.. pretty much the same as you. good luck. thats a big daddy for a first cycle. hope you dont mind the frequent pins

oh ya..im ending with prop, a shorter test ester for weeks 17-20. thats the only difference between mine and yours rpetty much.
 
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:beertoast i gotta ad to this.
i think the rerason your not getting flamed on this as a first cycle is its laid out perfectly.
this shows research and effort was put into this.

this is what i would like to see all new guys do.
 
cyto33 said:
do start the deca before the Sustanon (sust). start at the same time just the way you have planned it out.
as for Var witht his cycle its a waste of money your bulking.
if i was to add something i would add 2 sets of dbol.
week
1-5 Dbol 40mg ed

and at the end, run into pct.
end of week 14(after deca end) into day before post cycle therapy (pct).

sust is my favorite compound blend. and for sure with the long esters its 3 weeks.
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ok, Should I should pct, wait a bit then put together a cut cycle?

so run the Dbol weeks 14-18 as well?
 
TommyTrainR said:
im running a similar cycle coming up but this will be my 2nd. im going with 750 sust/400 deca/30 mg dbol.. pretty much the same as you. good luck. thats a big daddy for a first cycle. hope you dont mind the frequent pins

oh ya..im ending with prop, a shorter test ester for weeks 17-20. thats the only difference between mine and yours rpetty much.
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Thats cool!, I hate needles but I got a lot more comfortable around them when I started taking HCG, I know its a lot different to do an intermuscular injection but I will be ok!
I thought about switching to prop at the end... first time around, keep it simple. haha
 
cyto33 said:
:beertoast i gotta ad to this.
i think the rerason your not getting flamed on this as a first cycle is its laid out perfectly.
this shows research and effort was put into this.

this is what i would like to see all new guys do.
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Thanks! I've been thinking about it for awhile. waited til I was ready. I want to do it right!
I'm going to be taking Aromatase inhibitor (AI) life support, multi vit, B6 ....etc as well. I know all that good stuff from running PH's.
Just haven't researched cutting cycles to much. I think I'm going to do most of it by dieting. I wouldn't mind using a hardener though.
 
Dark_Side said:
ok, Should I should post cycle therapy (pct), wait a bit then put together a cut cycle?

so run the Dbol weeks 14-18 as well?
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yes run the dbol at the end.

do your pct and take time off get blood work done and make sure you have returned 100% to normal.
before you plan a cutter make sure you get the mass you want now and then add 10 pounds more before you cut cause you will looose when you cut down.
 
cyto33 said:
yes run the dbol at the end.

do your post cycle therapy (pct) and take time off get blood work done and make sure you have returned 100% to normal.
before you plan a cutter make sure you get the mass you want now and then add 10 pounds more before you cut cause you will looose when you cut down.
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Now I've gotta get more D-bol! lol
that would be one hell of a boost at the end.
As long as the liver is still good then I'll prob go for it.
ok. I have a good Dr. keeping an eye on my blood work constantly :)
I'll probably just do most of it by dieting, I just want to be around 8% which isn't that hard to get to with the proper diet/training
 
hell your in ontario blood work is easy as hell here and some docs are real cool also.
this will do good for you.
spend some time plot it all out on a calender when to start when to end what days. and cross em off after each day after each shot or pill. and eat big and train lots. sleep is wicked for growth.
 
cyto33 said:
hell your in ontario blood work is easy as hell here and some docs are real cool also.
this will do good for you.
spend some time plot it all out on a calender when to start when to end what days. and cross em off after each day after each shot or pill. and eat big and train lots. sleep is wicked for growth.
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Yea, My doc is cool. gives me clomid and dhea.
I was gonna print off a calender and mark it! lols! :D
 
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