T3 for bulking
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Iron Giant
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Also news to me, I'm not overly familiar with T3, but isn't it highly catabolic? So people usually run it along side AAS and use something like clen if they cut off cycle?
jbroski
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Yeah, I'm not too sure how/ if it actually works, but quite a few people are claiming it works. Not usre if I can post links to the pages so just try a google search for something like "use t3 to bulk", or "bulk with t3". Here's an excerpt from one page I was reading : "From what I have read, it DOES sound like it would be OPTIMAL to run T3 at a low dose during a bulk. Most of what I found was for precontest, and talked about running it up to 100mcg for no more than 6 weeks. So if you ran it at a low dose, 25mcg-50mcg for a little longer, say 8-10 weeks during a bulking cycle, you should see some good results. Since T3 helps increase the utilization of protein, fats and carbs, this might become a part of everyone's offseason bulk."
Truushot
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Ok if you run a 19-nor t3 will help you with some of the sides by reducing prolactin which will help you get some gains. It is an ancillary drug in these situations. The Thyroid does shut down a tad and this helps to regulate the metabolism which is what is used to digest food and synthesize protein and carbs.
A low dose will help you run more efficiently based on what the gas is doing to your thyroid. I would do around 25-50mgs per day for about 6 weeks. I have gained weight on t3 and even clen. YOu just have to eat to account for the increase in metabolic activity.
Just my opinion on what has worked for me and some of my friends.
A low dose will help you run more efficiently based on what the gas is doing to your thyroid. I would do around 25-50mgs per day for about 6 weeks. I have gained weight on t3 and even clen. YOu just have to eat to account for the increase in metabolic activity.
Just my opinion on what has worked for me and some of my friends.
jbroski
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Thanks for the info, Truushot. So, is this something you would recommend, even to just the average gym-rat, or is this more for bodybuilders?
jbroski
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For anyone interested, this is a pretty good breakdown I found (I did not write this, and do not take credit):
"You have to understand why and how things work. T3 is exogenous thyroid hormone. Every cell in the body depends upon thyroid hormones for regulation of their metabolism. What is metabolism? Simply the set of chemical processes that occur in the body, including protein synthesis (building of muscle tissue), and lipolysis (fat burning).
Knowing the definitions of those terms, basically T3 can raise the rate at which protein synthesis occurs. If you're building muscle faster, you have to provide more nutrients for MORE muscle growth. This is the oversimplified reasoning behind using T3 for bulking.
The T3 use for fat burning is a little bit more obvious, so I won't go into that.
I see this often, most guys are more concerned with the end result, then the pathways/processes. If you know how the stuff you are taking works and what it does, then you can make better decisions and reasoning on whether you should use EQ or not, or T3 or not, will anadrol get me big, etc."
"You have to understand why and how things work. T3 is exogenous thyroid hormone. Every cell in the body depends upon thyroid hormones for regulation of their metabolism. What is metabolism? Simply the set of chemical processes that occur in the body, including protein synthesis (building of muscle tissue), and lipolysis (fat burning).
Knowing the definitions of those terms, basically T3 can raise the rate at which protein synthesis occurs. If you're building muscle faster, you have to provide more nutrients for MORE muscle growth. This is the oversimplified reasoning behind using T3 for bulking.
The T3 use for fat burning is a little bit more obvious, so I won't go into that.
I see this often, most guys are more concerned with the end result, then the pathways/processes. If you know how the stuff you are taking works and what it does, then you can make better decisions and reasoning on whether you should use EQ or not, or T3 or not, will anadrol get me big, etc."
Iron Giant
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Thanks for the info Truushot & for the thread jbroski. I'll have to throw this one in my favorites and look into T3 for the future. Cheers lads!
Truushot
My Wifey
No problem guys. To answer OP's question about average gym rat...
I would recommend this to someone who isn't a bodybuilder. The reason is simple. If you are running steroids you should be a pretty serious lifter. WIth that being said you are not really altering your body's chemistry you are simply supplementing what may or may not be running correctly. It is kind of like taking a laxative when you are constipated. Your body needs it to work right.
T3 isn't dangerous if you don't overdo it. Order some t3 and give it a try. Just remember t3 shouldn't be abused like all other hormones.
I would recommend this to someone who isn't a bodybuilder. The reason is simple. If you are running steroids you should be a pretty serious lifter. WIth that being said you are not really altering your body's chemistry you are simply supplementing what may or may not be running correctly. It is kind of like taking a laxative when you are constipated. Your body needs it to work right.
T3 isn't dangerous if you don't overdo it. Order some t3 and give it a try. Just remember t3 shouldn't be abused like all other hormones.
riprockwell
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Nice posts. Honestly, I have been on T3 for a few years now and I love it. It will not burn the fat with everyone but my theory is this. The less compounds you can take to see optimal results, the better off you will be. Meaning, if you are cycling and looking great, I wouldn't honestly see the point of adding T3. From me being on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), I did notice my T3 output was lower while administering testosterone. So with that being said, I think most guys on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) should be on some form of thyroid supplementation. There can be some downfalls. T3 can really put your adrenals in to overdrive and that alone can cause some bad side effects. Some may disagree, but the key for me is to ramp up slowly and never go over 100mcg per day. And that should only be if you are cutting. I remember reading an article how guys were using it for protein synthesis but I swear I remember the dose being at 6.25mcg to 12.5mcg per day. I agree that T3 is safe when used correctly. Very few side effects. Just keep in mind, it works different from person to person. I had a friend take 6 weeks work with no diet changes and lose 30 lbs. I had another friend take it for 6 weeks with a good diet and didn't lose very much. The stuff can really increase the appetite so that is one of my downfalls.
Truushot
My Wifey
Heck yes Rip great addition.
I can also say that I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and my thyroid is always low but not low enough for synthroid or cytomel. It is funny though because these doctors are always afraid to do the right thing where I live.
If I was in AZ FL or CA they would have me on that shit.
That post was right on though!
I can also say that I am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and my thyroid is always low but not low enough for synthroid or cytomel. It is funny though because these doctors are always afraid to do the right thing where I live.
If I was in AZ FL or CA they would have me on that shit.
That post was right on though!
snorkles
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Hye, I have used T3 for about a year now, straight. I used it during a bulk too and my take on it is this>
If you REALLY want to put on mass like crazy dont take t3. T3 during a bulk for me is great when you want to put size but on the other hand you dont want to get fat. If you are going to compete and want crazy gains dont go fro t3 and dont care about the fat you gain, that's part of the game.
but if you are just bodybuilding for yourself, want to bulk up and enjoy some good food, take T3. at least during your bulk you will still be vascular and lean. I am doing this right now. I am on test-deca and t3 right now and I am growing gradually. in the past years I used to grow faster but I am in better shape now because I am taking t3 and doing my cardio EVERYDAY. there is no point in lifting and not looking like you lift while you are offseason, again, if you are not going to compete.
and dont forget, the less fat you gain to easier it is for you body to keep hold of the mass when you start cutting down.
If you REALLY want to put on mass like crazy dont take t3. T3 during a bulk for me is great when you want to put size but on the other hand you dont want to get fat. If you are going to compete and want crazy gains dont go fro t3 and dont care about the fat you gain, that's part of the game.
but if you are just bodybuilding for yourself, want to bulk up and enjoy some good food, take T3. at least during your bulk you will still be vascular and lean. I am doing this right now. I am on test-deca and t3 right now and I am growing gradually. in the past years I used to grow faster but I am in better shape now because I am taking t3 and doing my cardio EVERYDAY. there is no point in lifting and not looking like you lift while you are offseason, again, if you are not going to compete.
and dont forget, the less fat you gain to easier it is for you body to keep hold of the mass when you start cutting down.
jbroski
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Nightmare007
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This is news to me lol!
Nightmare007
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I wouldn't run t3 for that long as it weakens your bones and will lead to injury when you lift heavy
riprockwell
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Thanks man. Trust me, most docs are completely back in the 1980's when it comes to thyroid treatment. Synthroid is one of the worst things you can put in your body. Period. Docs are scared shitless of T3. And yet, when administered properly, there are very little side effects and it is safe. I was self medicating my thyroid for over a year until I finally found a doc who was open to me being on 50mcg of T3 per day. No one needs synthroid. I am on the fence with Armor Thyroid but that is a lot better because is has both T4 and T3, however T3 only is the best route to go with any thyroid issues in my opinion.
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riprockwell
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There have been people who have run T3 for years and the bone loss was very negligible. Could it happen?? Yes. Is it likely you will have a negative affect from it?? Not so much. That is one reason why I wasn't too opposed to taking Armor thyroid because it has T4, T3, T2, T1, and Calcitonin in it. That calcitonin is what is needed to rebuild bone mass. If I could tolerate T4, then I would be on that. And usually bone loss occurs when there is too much thyroid hormone circulating in your body. My T3 number is actually in range at the mid-point mark. However, I am thinking of getting a bone density scan every year just to see what changes are happening.
juced_porkchop
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I wouldent use it myself. and even when cutting would not use more then 50mcg ed nvm for bulking.
just my op.
I dont even use it now for cutting, loss of muscle i rather limit and fatloss given to diet/training.
just my op.
I dont even use it now for cutting, loss of muscle i rather limit and fatloss given to diet/training.
snorkles
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75-100mcg, high dosage yes but dont forget but calories are high too and test is high (700g minimum, 1200mg max per week) so there isnt any fear of losing muscle. that dosage, yes, does inhibit a bit muscle growth but as I told you, you have to chose what you want. getting fat and putting on mass like crazy or gradually growing and not gaining fat
lakers0812
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This is a little of topic but I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I've been taking synthroid and its made a night and day difference. I use clen but want to try t3. I'm a little hesitant to try it cos im worried it might mess up with my thyroid. Then again it might not since im taking a synthetic version. I know aas use definitely does not affect my thyroid as i do blood work often to check, but what do you think about t3?
