Quote Originally Posted by yellowballs View Post
TB 500 does this:
Endothelial (blood vessels) cell differentiation
Angiogenesis (growth of new blood cells from pre-existing vessels) in dermal tissues
Keratinocyte migration
Collagen deposition; and
Decreases inflammation.
Angiogenesis is a normal and vital process in growth and development, as well as in wound healing and in granulation tissue. However, it is also a fundamental step in the transition of tumors from a dormant state to a malignant one, leading to the use of angiogenesis inhibitors. The identification of an angiogenic diffusible factor derived from tumors was made initially by Greenblatt and Shubik in 1968.
This doen't mean it anything more than this....Angiogenesis leads to the growth of normal cells, ok thats not so bad.
Angiogenesis also helps any cancer (tumors that you have) to spread and become malignant.
google: Greenblatt and Shubik in 1968One of Thymosins main actions is in the production of T cells so it is present in the areas where cancer is present. It is what is referred to as a marker. Later studies indicate it actually helps to prevent the spread of, and actually shrink cancerous solid tumors by increasing antibodies. The issue is that earlier (and even some later) studies assumed the increased thymosin levels was responsible for the mitigation of cancer when it fact it is likely present to aid in the bodies defense of cancer cell mitigation. I reserched this extensively before taking tb500 (i actually did a log here)
In any event the main point is if someone has a tumor, to be on the safe side, dont take it. Just like you shouldnt take hgh, or igf, of aas as many if them increase igf. Does that really need be said? Im thinking if you have a tumor, malignant or benign, the last thing you are going to be worried about or doing is taking anabolic substances, all of which increase growth factors.
Hey Guys,
I'm 25yrold Aussie! Posted this across from Collagen synthesis - advised by a reply to look into TB-500 mixed with HGH to improve increase in collagen syn, and collagen cross-linking integrity and post surgical recovery of tendon full thickness tear.
Just looking for some advise on cylcing/mixing ( sorry i'm a rookie ) HGH ; which is the best for collagen syn and cross link out of the AAS??
And Tb-500 to promote all the things as quoted by JimiThing
Please read below for details.
I read StoneColdNTO post on Collagen synthesis of certain types of AAS. I've been reading for months now and it has been the most informative.
I'm a complete rookie to AAS and never thought to consider it an option until everything broke down around me.
Been a Personal trainer, Fighter, Extreme sport enthusiast for my whole life. The standard weak guy at the start of my life - Asthma, Anaphalaxia, Cealiac Diesease, Osgood Schlatter syndrome, Denied from the military due to cealiac diesease and the breaking point for me--
Bilateral shoulder surgery due to Downward lateral overgrowth of the acromion process causing full thickness tears of my supraspinatus tendons.
I have beat everything except the cealiac diesease but it has become dormant due to my strict diet.
I have had the first shoulder repaired ( 2months ago- Rehab now ) with two anchors holding the tendon back in place and sutured for the tear. My surgeon tells me there will always be weakness there with possible re-tearing later on in life. I'm still on the waiting list for my second shoulder.
I can't handle that, i want to be be fully repaired and stronger than ever so i can do everything i love and am passionate about, break records be something worthwhile! --- instead of a 25yrold guy back in his mum and dads home with no income or drive.
i started looking and have been taking the amino acid breakdowns of collagen- Glycine, Proline, Hydroxyproline( lysine and proline) and Arginine.
BUT of course the natural way, the body only takes what it needs.
AND I WANT TO BE stronger than i was before! Which has led me for the first time in my life to AAS.
I can see by far that GH is the best for dramatic increase in collagen syn, but NOT ironically decreasing collagen cross-linking integrity.
OR
Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.
Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.
I am only doing rehab so my MAIN FOCUS IS increase joint/tendon/ligament strength and repairing. Then later on go back to training.
I don't know where to go to talk to someone about cycling properly in Australia and so have gratefully found this forum.
Once again i am at my wits end and massively need some encouragement and help from some, who look to make someone stronger than before and looking at all options. Rather than people like my tunnel visioned negative surgeon and docters.
Hope you moderators and experienced users only can give me some advice.
Maxgrowth
