The reason I've made the posts I have is I believe this website stands for harm reduction. Taking drugs that mess with your endocrine system is inherently dangerous and risky, so we try to advocate for the safest and lowest risk ways to do this hobby.
Several things stand out in your posts that raise a red flag:
You keep using the term micro dose, when in fact this is a more powerful run (7x anabolic and 6x androgenic) than the standard 500 test cyp cycle (5x anabolic and androgenic)
You claim to have done the math, but when presented with it said your math was different. The beauty of math is once we all agree on the method the numbers are what they are, it removes all the emotions and opinions. Your anabolic rating wasn't a whole lot different, but it raises a red flag when you claim the math is solid and you've also figured out nitrogen uptake. I'd like to see that.
The whole time off = time on premise is one of the foundations of harm reduction. In a field clogged with bro science this stands out as good advice. Your approach completely discards this, and is so bold as to claim no effect.
You came on really strong with a bunch of pomp and bluster, then it comes out you've done this for a whopping two weeks. Save the bluster for when you've stood the test of time.
You are mixing two 19-nors. This is a crap shoot, some people can do it indefinitely. Others it catches up to them after a few times and they get the dreaded deca dick. For still others they get slammed the first time. I see this as bad advice, flying in the face of harm reduction.
There's been a lot of talk about the definition of cruze. To me a TRT dose is 100 mg/wk test cyp, which is 70 mg/wk test base, about equal to the 10 mg/day a normal healthy average person will make. Upper limit for traditional TRT is about 200 mg/wk cyp, so I'm cool with that definition, that's an anabolic and androgenic rating of 2x, so to me beyond that is no longer cruzing. 7x is well beyond that, so therefore this is not a cruze. But that's all really semantics and who cares. The point is cruzing with 7x/6x anabolic and androgenic means your system is ramped up all the time, it never gets a break. This prevents down regulating of all your receptors, which means next time you blast you will need ever higher doses to see any effect - again departing from harm reduction as I believe the poison lies in the dose.
Depending on the person it could also mean shitty liver values, stressed kidneys, high hematocrit, high blood pressure, etc. never get a chance to come down in the time off. Also anti-harm reduction.
You claim to be the first to come up with this idea. Sorry roids have been around for 70 odd years and the idea is hardly new. As one example Teutonic cruzes on 150 test prop 150 tren. Works for him. There must be many thousands of others who've had the though and many who do it.
So really it's not about emotions, and I really don't like to argue, it's about pointing out for all who read this that your approach is a wolf in sheep's clothing. It isn't micro, and it isn't free of risks - in fact I think it's the opposite. There were so many things that stood out as bullshit I had to call you out on it, I'd feel a bit irresponsible if I didn't.
And final thought - I see you mentioned your height is 6'4" and up to 280#. I'm also 6'4" and 235#. I personally feel I'm about as big as I want to be, especially since I do mostly crossfit type workouts and more body weight works against you in so many things we do. I could probably feel ok up to say 255# if body fat were say 10%, but I'd call that a limit. At our size our hearts are already working hard, and guys like us are at risk for enlarged hearts and all the risk those entail. I'm not joking about all the guys who end up dead at 50 +/- 2 years. It is a bunch of them, and could be you, or me, or your IFBB buddies. Who knows. One thing I think I know is staying "on" all the time with such a high anabolic and androgenic rating is harmful. And then as a result having to take higher doses when blasting would be hard as hell on my heart - and yours too. In the theme of harm reduction I really don't think your dosages and approach are a good idea at all.
Others need to make up their own minds about definitions, about believing (or not) if time off = time one is a good idea, and their doses and compounds. It is a disservice to present this approach as something safe or time tested.
Ok good. If you come at me like an intelligent man than I don't mind debating things with you. You are welcome to your opinion of the upside, downside, risks, and rewards of this type of AAS use. I just don't want to bicker about semantics, and for the record
I still have not seen anyone post their definition of a cruze vs a blast/cycle. I would respect you more if you deleted the ridiculous constant posts of "it's not a cruze it's a cycle". I will do the same for any negative posts I have made.
Micro dose is used as a proper verbiage because it is micro doses of 4 different compounds. This is considered micro dosing because in the AAS world we are talking about the average amount of MGs used, and usually used in a blast no matter if it's an average 3 month cycle or a pro BB 10 month cycle. So compared to any of those average uses of AAS this is a micro dose. When ppl are talking about AAS use they are not talking about TRT so stop comparing everything I say to the absolute minimal dose used for TRT.
This is an original idea because you can go on and on about how this person did this or that and how low dose short ester cycles were originally started from this site....um no, but this is neither a cycle nor does it use short esters and it is not meant for you to gain as much muscle off the least amount of gear, used for the least amount of time.
It is an experiment to see if you can make a highly anabolic HRT style cocktail that can be ran similar to a cruze and if this is not an original idea stop just saying that, stop giving half azz examples of something someone else does or did, just add a link to the post or article that is identical to what I am sharing with all of you. I also don't understand why you care if I say this is a new idea or not??? What do you care if I claim to be the originator of an idea that has been around? How does it effect any of the information that is being shared? It doesn't.
So show all of us the link to all of these examples of AAS use that I am supposedly taking credit for but please don't paste a link to something that is kinda, sort of, in a way similar to this. It is just your attempt to discredit me. Because I have 5 posts by my name you made the assumption that I am some type of rookie trying to pass ideas off as great ideas when I don't know what I'm talking about, was your mistake and the fact that you still feel like you need to win an argument that you have already lost, just shows that you are less concerned with knowledge being spread around, debated, and taken in or left behind.
A cruze does not have to be a TRTdose it is just an amount of anabolics that will not cause the body to react to the exo-hormones that are being introduced yet keep the body maintaining as much muscle as possible. If I was telling ppl that this is a version of TRT than you could go ahead and dispute that but this is not TRT. Also whoever told you that the average TRT dose is 100mg/week is either a very small chap or his Dr. is shooting for a 500ng/dl rating. in actuality most ppl are on a 200mg/week dose. But once again this is not TRT. Also you should work on your math as far as ester cleaving and metabolism of TRT because 10mg/day is far from what TRT does.
Everyone reacts differently to diff compounds. I have never said that "the best thing to do is to combine two 19-nor compounds in order to get the best results" I simply have put down what is in my cocktail. My body does not react poorly to mixing Nandrolone with Trenbolone, that is not to say that it is not quite common to have negative side effects especially negative sexual function from the combination of the two, however you never asked my view or opinion on how successful that combination would be on other ppl did you. You really have not asked my view on anything you just have made repeated jack azz assumptions about everything from me personally to the effects of this experiment. So go back to thinking you know everything and know all there is to know about steroid use and training just keep that crap attitude away from me.
I also have not posted anything that has said this is 100% safe and has zero side effects!!! Or could you please paste the quote where I said that? Because I....I really don't remember ever posting anything that even came close to eluding to that idea. I also don't remember you ever saying anything asking me what my thoughts were on how this would ultimately effect your overall health when referring to organ function and short or long term damage that this may do.
You just took it upon yourself to bash me and my idea as being unsafe. I'm curious to know where you got your research that represents that. Could you please post the article or combination of research that shows how this certain cocktail will effect your health in a negative way?I will remind you that I have been posting this as truly just an experiment and posting my reaction to this cocktail, I have not even come close to getting to the point of bloodwork or any testing to see if there are any negative side effects. If I have made a mistake by posting an introductory log and passing it off as a completed successful test than please point out which part of my posting I need to edit.
As far as you comparing me to yourself and how we are both at risk of an enlarged heart is like me comparing myself to Rob Gronkowski and making assumptions on how we will both have certain health risks. You have no clue what my genetics are. Just how I have no clue what a massively genetically superior person like Rob Gronkowski is going to suffer from health wise. He may have massively genetically superior genes when it comes to athleticism and sh1t genes when it comes to long term health but I don't know that and I would be acting like a jackazz to make the assumption that I did know that. You know nothing about me, you have never asked to know anything about me, yet you make assumptions about my AAS use, AAS knowledge, my health, my genetics, and what I plan to do with this experiment.
Now that all of your attempts to discredit me, bash my idea, put me down, argue semantics and just be an example of a know it all jerk that has so little self esteem and so little respect for others, has been put to rest will you please....pretty please....fukk off and leave me alone to log a novel and worth while experiment?
