I would do like 50mg pre workout and the other 25 later just to spread it out
Tbol is not a mass building steroid it's an athletic enhancement product.. your not going to get big off it in any dose that doesn't put your liver into a shut down.
Tdob is a derivative of Dbol however if your a performance athlete Tbol is the choice if MASS is what your after then Oral whinny or Dbol.
From the ground up Tbol was developed for athletes, it's a pure hardening product, like Anavar. Tbol's anabolic effect is , ( ~53) on a scale of 0-100, but has ZERO androgenic sides on that same scale. It's what a competitive body builder would take before comp to create a mature muscle look. Or say a cross-fit competitor would use it to gain performance vectors.
Dbol has anabolic rate of 100 to 200+ over testosterone(100) and a androgenic rate 1/3 of testosterone. However it promotes mass, not just hardness.
Both are 17aa so both will be similarly heptatoxic and both will raise blood pressure..
pick the right one for the job, that's it... and stop with the 'bros' crap, it's juvenile.
hey Gmann, go fuck yourself.. as a public service.
An overall great reply, ruined by an assinine ending comment. Way to fuck up a good thing, d bags like you just can't help yourselves, I get it.
His stop with the bro comment was asinine? Hardly a d bag comment man, and YES it is juvenile. I use it sometimes but doesn't change the fact on how it comes across. Cat gave you a great response as you said, his last sentence isn't cause for a break down. Not many adult professionals running around using the term bro in their convos. It's typically limited to a very specific groups of peeps.
Back to topic: Well all answers are already covered. I tend to think sticking with whatever cycle (including doses) you started with is best, other than A.I. doses. It seems that desire to want to start upping doses, and adding substances kicks in pretty strong during the cycle, and can lead down a very slippery slope. Not saying you will fall into that mindset. Guess this doesn't really have much to do with the original question though.
Probably not many using cat and peeps either, but lets try to focus on the original question
Tdob is a derivative of Dbol however if your a performance athlete Tbol is the choice if MASS is what your after then Oral whinny or Dbol.
From the ground up Tbol was developed for athletes, it's a pure hardening product, like Anavar. Tbol's anabolic effect is , ( ~53) on a scale of 0-100, but has ZERO androgenic sides on that same scale. It's what a competitive body builder would take before comp to create a mature muscle look. Or say a cross-fit competitor would use it to gain performance vectors.
Dbol has anabolic rate of 100 to 200+ over testosterone(100) and a androgenic rate 1/3 of testosterone. However it promotes mass, not just hardness.
Both are 17aa so both will be similarly heptatoxic and both will raise blood pressure..
pick the right one for the job, that's it... and stop with the 'bros' crap, it's juvenile.
Tdob is a derivative of Dbol however if your a performance athlete Tbol is the choice if MASS is what your after then Oral whinny or Dbol.
From the ground up Tbol was developed for athletes, it's a pure hardening product, like Anavar. Tbol's anabolic effect is , ( ~53) on a scale of 0-100, but has ZERO androgenic sides on that same scale. It's what a competitive body builder would take before comp to create a mature muscle look. Or say a cross-fit competitor would use it to gain performance vectors.
Dbol has anabolic rate of 100 to 200+ over testosterone(100) and a androgenic rate 1/3 of testosterone. However it promotes mass, not just hardness.
Both are 17aa so both will be similarly heptatoxic and both will raise blood pressure..
pick the right one for the job, that's it... and stop with the 'bros' crap, it's juvenile.
And honestly, it is juvenile for you to tell him to stop the "bros" crap, especially considering he said it one time in his first post in this thread. Remember, this site is to help guys out and educate them, not be a grammar/slang nazi. If people are going to get so hurt about how a person communicates on this forum, then don't post then. If you want to get technical, your post is full of gramatical errors chief.
It's odd y'all are tripping out on his comment, yet Gmann fired back calling him a d bag. Hull Tech simply said "it's juvenile," which yes it is. He didn't call Gmann juvenile, yet Gmann fired back on a more personal level (if a forum can be that). Might be his pet peeve (sp?), I don't know, but I do know it's not that serious. I'm typically the first to say be prepared for any type of responses you get but when it's members who have been around for a while (both 2011, and you 2004) it's silly to get into these kinds of arguments.
Look, I am not tripping out on his comment. Gmann didn't have to call him a D-bag. That I agree with. However, what did HullTech think was going to happen?? That stop with the bros crap is just going to cause some tension when in reality, all the OP wanted was a simple answer. HullTech gave him a good answer and then added some cockiness on the end of his post. Then proceeded to get even more childish by telling him to go fuck himself. I have ragged guys before, but I don't like to tell someone to speak/type a certain way. I can call a guy a retard for taking 4 orals as a cycle but I don't look to cause conflict on this site. If you and HullTech think saying bro is juvenile, so is saying "y'all" in some people's opinions. What are we in Texas?? That's all I am saying. This convo is done.
Ok I'll say this one more time maybe it would be heard (considered this is the third time I've said it in this post). I USE THE WORD BRO FROM TIME TO TIME. Just because I agree with hull tech's assessment in it being juvenile doesn't mean I'm above using it. And yes I am from Texas. No place I would rather be. Proud the fuck of it.
I know you say bro. That is fine. So do I. All I am saying is that HullTech did not just say it was juvenile, he told him to stop using it all together. No one is going to tell me what words/slang I can or cannot use. That's all I am saying. I honestly believe in killing people with kindness rather than hatred. This was not a stab at you Kaname at all. It just boils my blood when people add on unnecessary comments after trying to help out. Again, bro in your opinion is juvenile even though you admit to saying it. We are not at a congressional meeting now are we?? We are talking about steroids. Hell, a lot of the mods on here use bro. Hull Tech wouldn't tell them to stop using the word would he?? Of course not. Either way, it looks like the OP's original question was answered. PS - I like Texas as well.