Templaar's First Test-E Cycle - E2 Issues !

[Big_rich]

Yea I think as u posted above he should consult with 3j. All this info can be over whelming when first getting into this life style

 

[templaar]

Thanks Danish and Big_rich,
My maintenance calories as per using the Mifflin-St Jeor Equation is 2500.
So if i target muscle gain i should have 3000 calories right?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Leave the Clen alone. You don't want to deal with the shakes and the muscle cramps.

 

[templaar]

Thanks Roberts!
After considering everyone's thoughts i am postponing clen idea and saving it for my next cycle or may b after PCT of this cycle as Ajinkya said.
Also im convinced with Danish and will now concentrate on muscle gain rather than cutting.

danish can you please answer my calorie question? Also tell me macros for 3000 calories.

 

[Ajinkya]

Thanks Roberts!
After considering everyone's thoughts i am postponing clen idea and saving it for my next cycle or may b after PCT of this cycle as Ajinkya said.
Also im convinced with Danish and will now concentrate on muscle gain rather than cutting.

danish can you please answer my calorie question? Also tell me macros for 3000 calories.

Bro you took a good decision with clen to use after pct.. i would suggest you keep gaining or eating in surplus till your pct is over.. and use clen a month or two before starting a new cycle.. Are you using HCg in your cycle???

macros would depend on you.. but on cycle or off i like to go with 1.4g/lb protein, 0.6-0.7g/lb fat and rest would be carb.. there is no need to eat 2g/lb protein..

 

[Danishaesthetics]

Templaar : I would contact 3J to help you with your diet, but if you insist on doing yourself a 40/40/20 ratio is a pretty normal ratio to follow. If you want to lean bulk I wouldn't go in much more than a 10% surplus.

Ajinkya : Remember to tell him he needs to run Ketotifene with the Clen or else he will end up frying his receptors ! But clen is definitely not needed for him to achieve the results he's looking for.

 

[templaar]

Thanks Ajinkya. yes I m running HCg 250x2 a week since bigining of the cycle. N adex i switched to 0.5 MWF. N now I think I don't have e2 issues at all. My libido is awesome... Enjoying it haha. Gr8 advice received here.
Already started eating more. Ajinkya I think u had chicken cubes at night.. Can u tell me from wer did u got that.. I'm looking for chicken which should b of ready to eat kind since its v inconvenient to cook it daily on own.. Weekends I manage but difficult in weekdays.

Thanks Danish for awesome advice.. 10% above maintenance will b around 2800. Which I think is manageably. I am going for it. not going for clen deifinately as of this cycle. Thanks a ton bro!

 

[Big_rich]

A bro do lots of research on clen the risk isn't worth the reward I wouldnt include it period if I were you you can achieve great results with diet. I say only exception is if you compete but fir the average gym rat I'd skip clen all together

 

[Ajinkya]

Templaar : I would contact 3J to help you with your diet, but if you insist on doing yourself a 40/40/20 ratio is a pretty normal ratio to follow. If you want to lean bulk I wouldn't go in much more than a 10% surplus.

Ajinkya : Remember to tell him he needs to run Ketotifene with the Clen or else he will end up frying his receptors ! But clen is definitely not needed for him to achieve the results he's looking for.

oh yes that is a given when running clen.. or you can run 2 on 2 off.. but i think running clen 6-8 weeks straight with 1-2 mg ketotifen is a good option..clen is good if before starting a new cycle, you dont want to get on a cycle with high bf.. learnt it the hard way

 

[Ajinkya]

A bro do lots of research on clen the risk isn't worth the reward I wouldnt include it period if I were you you can achieve great results with diet. I say only exception is if you compete but fir the average gym rat I'd skip clen all together

I dont think this is true, clen if used properly with proper dose you can easily lose fat.. keeping in mind your diet is good..

 

[Ajinkya]

Thanks Ajinkya. yes I m running HCg 250x2 a week since bigining of the cycle. N adex i switched to 0.5 MWF. N now I think I don't have e2 issues at all. My libido is awesome... Enjoying it haha. Gr8 advice received here.
Already started eating more. Ajinkya I think u had chicken cubes at night.. Can u tell me from wer did u got that.. I'm looking for chicken which should b of ready to eat kind since its v inconvenient to cook it daily on own.. Weekends I manage but difficult in weekdays.

Thanks Danish for awesome advice.. 10% above maintenance will b around 2800. Which I think is manageably. I am going for it. not going for clen deifinately as of this cycle. Thanks a ton bro!

Can you tell me which Hcg youre using and how youre storing it.. i know in india its difficult to find 500 iu hcg vials.. and for chicken i buy zorabian chicken cubes wither from the supermarket ir online from ***NO LINKS TO OUTSIDE WEBSITES NON SPONSORS PLEASE*******
and i guess i would start adex with 0.5 eod for my next cycle..

 

[templaar]

Hucog 2000. Its pre mixed in vial. One bottle 8 doses. Draw uptil 5 mark on insulin syringe. Keep the bottle in closed box in hygienic place. Re use the bottle for 8 doses.
I think u should go for adex 0.5 MWF n not EOD. EOD will b too much. Try it out!

 

[Ajinkya]

Hucog 2000. Its pre mixed in vial. One bottle 8 doses. Draw uptil 5 mark on insulin syringe. Keep the bottle in closed box in hygienic place. Re use the bottle for 8 doses.
I think u should go for adex 0.5 MWF n not EOD. EOD will b too much. Try it out!

Should i keep it in the refrigerator?? if possible can you pm me the images of the syringe and hucog hcg??

 

[manstan]

Should i keep it in the refrigerator?? if possible can you pm me the images of the syringe and hucog hcg??

Yes you need to keep it in the fridge, if you need to hide it just put it it a resealable pack of creatine and refrigerate. Premixed HUCOG is most likely from Bharat Serums, what I do is just get a photo from the net and show the pharmacist, just tell them to check in the fridge, should be easy to find in Bombay. Otherwise just source bac water.

 

[templaar]

Should i keep it in the refrigerator?? if possible can you pm me the images of the syringe and hucog hcg??

nope

Unable to attach in PM so attached here. hope they will not ban me.
hcg pin is the easiest one. i do it within seconds.

 

[manstan]

You pinning sub q?

 

[templaar]

Yup

 

[Milton]

be sure to read the board rules guys.

 

[blakey]

Forget all of this rubbish except contact 3j that's up to you if I had the spare coin I would . Firstly you need to Bulk first you may gain some fat but you will also see muscle then just do another cycle of test after your pct and you have waited the appropriate time and do a cut just on the test. I saw you pics last time I spoke to you so congratulations on the gains just remember you can't do everything at once don't take clenched or any of that shit brother you don't need it

 

[templaar]

Thanks Blakey !
Yup im not going for cutting as of now. concentrating on gains as much possible.