Iam about to start my first cycle ever . I'm gonna do Test250 E along with some D-Bol tabs for the first 4 weeks.I'm 28yr old 5'8 150lbs . I'm pretty lean other than a slight pot belly. Not to bad tho.I have great muscle deffintion everywhere but I'm still workin on the stomach.I know that the Test and D-bol is gonna make me retain a lot of water but will it cut some fat ? And beings its my first cycle will I be able to keep my muscle deffiniton? If there's a way to get my gains and keep my deffinition while I'm on this cycle please post it ! Thanks alot
Test 250 E and D- bol need a lil help !
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terry tripod
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yes you will keep your deffiniton you should get bigger and you will gain weight as well ! try an eat as clean as you can and it will reduce blowin up like a fish !! but eat like a horse as well !! you need to some aromasin or letrozole to run through cycle and this will help with water retention and gyno and get your post cycle therapy (pct) in check aswell you need all of this on hand before you start your cycle buddy !!!
Mr. Humdiddly
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What dosages are you planning on running?
For a first cycle you should just run testosterone. If you are worried about water retention and looking to cut some body fat try using prop. Prop has a lot less water weight associated with it.
Also what does your diet look like? How about your workout schedule? Whether or not you gain definition is based largely on diet.
So please provide more info.
I have some nolvadex that I was planning on starting as my post cycle therapy (pct). But I wasnt gonna take it until i was finished with my cycle . Would it be better for me to take aromasin while im on instead of waiting until i finish to use the novaledex? Thanks alll the info is greatly appreciated.
I already have purchased Test 250 enathate. So i guess im gonna run it. I could use alot of help with my diet , I try to eat as clean as possible and try to eat every 3 hours. Right now I workout monday thru Friday and im planning on stepping my sets up when i start my cycle. All the info i cant get is greatly appreciated.
LiftingAway
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DBol armotizes much more than other drugs/orals. Mixed with test which will also cause you to hold water, I highly suggest taking an anti-e through out the cycle, or at least during the DBol stage of the cycle. Take it from me, I ran the same cycle, and didn't take an anti-e through out the cycle, and now I'm battling a gyno flare up.
Aromasin is a suicide inhibitor, and some estrogen is good, so I'd go with a milder anti-e such as arimidex. Start with .25-.5 EOD. If you start seeing too much bloat, or ANY signs of gyno, kick the dose up to about .5 ED.
Obviously, have nolva on hand in case you do have a flare up of gyno. Use nolva for standard post cycle therapy (pct) at 40/40/20/20. You could also throw in some clomid to help with keeping your gains. I also recommend some HCG towards the end of the cycle as well as it will get your boys starting to produce their own testosterone before you cut off the injections which will also help you keep gains.
LiftingAway
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Cardio always helps. I recommend HIIT at 20 minutes 3x a week and moderate level carido at 40 minutes 2x a week.
Diet is key, eat like shit, get fat. Gear isn't magic. If your diet and workout regime is in check, it will greatly help you, but it won't work miracles as you eat McDonalds.
Mr. Humdiddly
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Eating every three hours is great but, equally important is what you eat. Could you define clean?
Since you need help with diet i would recommend you post you current diet in the diet forum. Between 3j and the vets, mods you will get the perfect diet going.
Best of luck
My goal
As i stated earlier im a lil guy 5'8 150 soakin wet. I have good muscle definition right now . My goal is to gain 15 - 20 lbs and still have deffinition . I know diet is a big factor and im open for recommendations on a diet! Im gonna take 500mg of test 250 enathate A WEEK ,for 8 weeks and 50mg of d-bol for the first 4 weeks or 5 weeks. Once again this is my first cycle ever ! Is my goal reachable ? With the right diet can i gain 15-20lbs and keep it fairley lean ? Thanks alot for the info guys!!! !!!!
As i stated earlier im a lil guy 5'8 150 soakin wet. I have good muscle definition right now . My goal is to gain 15 - 20 lbs and still have deffinition . I know diet is a big factor and im open for recommendations on a diet! Im gonna take 500mg of test 250 enathate A WEEK ,for 8 weeks and 50mg of d-bol for the first 4 weeks or 5 weeks. Once again this is my first cycle ever ! Is my goal reachable ? With the right diet can i gain 15-20lbs and keep it fairley lean ? Thanks alot for the info guys!!! !!!!
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Greazy-Pickle
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Test is Test.. if you run prop for 14weeks and enanthate for 14weeks the water retention will be almost the same.. reason ppl say prop is less water is because its usually ran for a shorter duration.. its based off time not ester..
Italiano SPO
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5'8" 150 lbs? You don't need gear yet. What you need first is a diet and training program. Gear isn't some magical formula that's going to take you from 150 to 200 just by shooting it. If you are only 150 and have a slight pot belly at that, you have diet/training issues. There's absolutely no reason why you can't get in better shape than that without gear. You need to eat more and get your diet and cardio dialed in. One you max out your natural potential and have everything dialed in, ONLY THEN should you move on to gear. IMO, you have a ways to go. Save your money for now.
Italiano SPO
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Adex is weak and I would never recommend it over Aromasin. Go with Aromasin and have Letro on hand as a backup. Start at 12.5mg ED and adjust as necessary if you are going to continue to do this cycle and not heed the advice on waiting.
ive been working out hard for a good year now. Ive been staying in shape cardio wise for the last 4 years. im a firefighter and dieting has been an issue due to ive always ate what i wanted when i wanted. As i have gotten older my tabalism has slowed down i guess. gained like 3 freakin pounds. what im calling a pot bell most wouldnt . when i sit down u can grab with 3 fingers a lil stomach fat . im use to a wash board stomach. but I have never never been able to gain weight. protein shakes, creatin, i just cant gain im not sure if i burn it off or what but i cant gain. I decided i was gonna hit it hard about this time last year and try and gain and get bigger. i started at 148 and im at 150 now. dieting im sure could use tweeking but i eat clean and several times a day. and take protein shakes. im in great shape ,best ive ever been in but im ready to gain a few pounds. as far as being in shape physically i think im ready as the next guy for a lil gear but my dieting does need help and before i start it will be in order . open for reccomendations on diets too. like i said im looking for 10 to 15 lbs and i will be happy .
Italiano SPO
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Dude...I'm confident you can gain some weight naturally. Start upping your cals and don't worry about some belly fat along the way....it's part of bulking and putting on mass. Start eating every 2-3 hours and what's always worked for me was to wake up in the middle of the night and have a protein shake waiting in the fridge. Use some weight gainers that are heavy in protein and carbs. If you're training is on point and you are getting the cals you need, you will grow to your max potential and then you can think about adding some gear to take you to the next level. At this point, gear would be wasting your money. I'm just being honest bro....I'd hate for you to spend all this money and end up looking the same as you do now.
Conrad415
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I always use a 25 gauge with a 1" needle. However, it depend on how long you want to wait for the oil to be drawn. I use all GP gear and it stuff is very smooth when drawn in the syringe. But I have used some thick stuff and had to use a 23 g to draw with.
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