Test E and Win, Tren, Equipose...?

[VicThruDomination]

Nothing to say more than RJ.

testo-tren is a combo you seems ready for.

test prop 100mg EOD week: 1-10
tren-ace 100mg EOD week 1-8proviron 50mg/ed week 1-10
cabaser 0.25 E3D week 1-5 0.5 E3D week 5-10.
vit-b6 injectable 50mg/E2D week 3-10.
HCG 250 U.I E3D week 1-12
PCt clomid 50mg/ed for 18 days.

thing is that I play sports and RJ said the tren will absolutely kill my cardio...dont want to be a huge beastly statue that cant do anything...Ill be big for no reason...Might look good but If I cant make plays then Im worthless...After sports just might have to try this cycle out.

And what is this cabaser you speak of?

 

[RJ]

thing is that I play sports and RJ said the tren will absolutely kill my cardio...dont want to be a huge beastly statue that cant do anything...Ill be big for no reason...Might look good but If I cant make plays then Im worthless...After sports just might have to try this cycle out.

And what is this cabaser you speak of?

Cabaser (dostinex) is a dopamine agonist. Its used to keep prolactin levels in check. 19nors like Deca and Tren cause prolactin based sides.

I still say you should do the Test/EQ. Test/Mast would be OK also.

Honestly, why do you think its necessary to do two compounds again? Honestly, you're making this too difficult.

Test E and a clean diet and you will be golden and you won't have to worry about the other shit. If you're cutting, you're main concern is anti-catabolism anyway.

 

[VicThruDomination]

haha well that was part of the idea. Not purposly trying to make it more complicated...Asked if test enth alone, with a clean diet and proper hydration, would give me good lean results or if there would be a good bit of bloat...that OR if it would be best to go with 2 compounds to keep the bloat down.

Honestly think Im going to roll with test e/eq. The EQ will help heal problems Im having with my tendons, specifically patella tendons, in my knees right?...they are deteriorating/tearing/slighty torn from years of sports/running and heavy lifiting...Great diagnosis according to the awesome trainers at my school. They are pretty professional

 

[VicThruDomination]

i have read that EQ could take as long as 8 wks to kick in....wouldnt that be pretty pointless to take then?

 

[RJ]

i have read that EQ could take as long as 8 wks to kick in....wouldnt that be pretty pointless to take then?

thats mainly for mass gains IMO. You won't be using it for that.

Again, i don't really think you NEED any other compounds.

 

[VicThruDomination]

thats mainly for mass gains IMO. You won't be using it for that.

Again, i don't really think you NEED any other compounds.

well I wanted to try and take something to maybe help repair my patella tendon and shoulders...any relief with them would be awesome. heard the collagen synthesis with eq could help do so. True? or is there something better that would do so? Heard Anavar was pretty legit...small dose of deca? help a brother out mr. miagi

What would post cycle therapy (pct) look like with the 500 test/ 400 EQ? read some places that Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is essential throughout or is Nolva/clomid g2g?

PS- RHJ, your video in your sig is funny as fuck hahahaha

 

[VicThruDomination]

ok, been reading my ass off...How's this look fellas:

WK 1-4 T-bol--30/30/20/20
WK 1-10 Test E--500 mg/wk
WK 1-9/10?? EQ-400 mg/wk
WK 12-15 Nolva-40/30/20/20

that optimal duration for the cycle or should I go 15wks?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

15 weeks if your using EQ

 

[VicThruDomination]

15 weeks if your using EQ

ok, and should I start the Eq a wk earlier or stop it a week earlier than the test. PCT good enough for this cycle? Read alot of people taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) throughout...needed?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/595482-standard-pcts.html

 

[_Obelix_]

Not sure why you're set on test-E, the longer ester in the enanthate version causes a fair bit of bloat and water retention. Rather go for a shorter estered version of test, like -PROP.

Otherwise I'm going on a cycle pretty similar to yours, also a sportsman looking to get lean, fast and hard.

You should look into peptides for the joint restoration: IGF-1LR3 is good for cartilage regeneration, and HGH Frag 176 is awesome for dropping bodyfat %.

 

[DADAWG]

Not sure why you're set on test-E, the longer ester in the enanthate version causes a fair bit of bloat and water retention. Rather go for a shorter estered version of test, like -PROP.

Otherwise I'm going on a cycle pretty similar to yours, also a sportsman looking to get lean, fast and hard.

You should look into peptides for the joint restoration: IGF-1LR3 is good for cartilage regeneration, and HGH Frag 176 is awesome for dropping bodyfat %.

the ester doesnt cause bloat , the test does.

people tend to run higher doses of long esters like eth/cyp/etc. plus the long esters build up in the system.

 

[RJ]

the ester doesnt cause bloat , the test does.

people tend to run higher doses of long esters like eth/cyp/etc. plus the long esters build up in the system.

exactly, and a shitty diet and lack of hydration will also cause bloat.

 

[DADAWG]

exactly, and a shitty diet and lack of hydration will also cause bloat.

dont forget the sodium that people who are bulking tend to inhale.

 

[RJ]

dont forget the sodium that people who are bulking tend to inhale.

yep.

what I'm wondering is why are all these young guys so worried about a little water? If they only knew the difference in strength it can make.

Its the Underwear Model generation I guess.

 

[DADAWG]

yep.

what I'm wondering is why are all these young guys so worried about a little water? If they only knew the difference in strength it can make.

Its the Underwear Model generation I guess.

a little water matters when your a 160 pounds and trying to cut up

 

[jimbo79]

a little water matters when your a 160 pounds and trying to cut up

Hahaha..seems very true here lately.

 

[_Obelix_]

I've always been under the impression that the longer the test ester, the more bloat, but happy to stand corrected.

Not too worried about the underwear-model body, more interested in performance, so wanna carry as little extra weight as possible, hence my worry about bloat/water-retention. Thread author has same concerns.

So keeping well hydrated reduces these sides? Seems counter-intuitive, cos the more water you drink the more there is to be retained in muscles.

 

[DADAWG]

I've always been under the impression that the longer the test ester, the more bloat, but happy to stand corrected.

Not too worried about the underwear-model body, more interested in performance, so wanna carry as little extra weight as possible, hence my worry about bloat/water-retention. Thread author has same concerns.

So keeping well hydrated reduces these sides? Seems counter-intuitive, cos the more water you drink the more there is to be retained in muscles.

the body will hold water as a defense mechanism if you dont take enough water in. estrogen bloat also soon dissapears post cycle.

regardless antiestrogens are readliy available these days so there is no reason sweat bloat for the average person.

 

[RJ]

So keeping well hydrated reduces these sides? Seems counter-intuitive, cos the more water you drink the more there is to be retained in muscles.

that is the common misconception.

added storage come from negative feedback.

Its why when women decide to stop eating as a means of weight loss they tend to get fatter. The body will store more if it thinks its not gonna get it for a while.

Same with water. If you contoniuosly drink water the body will expect it and flush what you drink more regularly. If you don't, it thinks its gonna be a while before it gets it again and stores it.

There are other factors but that is the basic gist.

Proper nutrition and plenty of water intake will reduce 90% of any bloat issues, on or off cycle. Sodium, hormone and aromatization make up the rest.