Test only? What should I expect?

[jimbo79]

i dont understand why everyone has such a hard time finding a first cycle layout. when i researched mine the only question i had was how much aromasin to take. if you cant answer dose duration and post cycle therapy (pct) on your own, then your either not trying or really not trying.

Agree again!! I searched this shit...for long time! found threads...found more threads..and more threads!...Then when I thought I found enough! I found more threads...

Then..finally...after months of searching,and learning!!! i made my first post! And what was my first post?????

Kinda like happy new year i'm new and shit!!

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

350 isn't low it great. The truth is 350 a week is all you should ever need. There are a lot of people using a lot more and there not getting any more from it. the body can only use so much.

 

[aso_sr06@yahoo.com]

Hey guys i need help ok for some reason or another i wasnt educated on how to give an injection the right way because when i injected myself for the 4th time with 250 per ml test in my quad i pointed the needle in different directions to see if it would help with absorbing the test better and the pain and hopefully not swell as bad also i put the 1 and 1/4" needle in all the way so i did it wrong, everything was steral i did everything right except the injection it my leg is swollen at the sight and i have light redness on the skin im not running any feaver or anything like that i feel fine all except the redness kinda worries me its been 3 days and it seems to be getting easer to walk and move it . I have already experianced pain and swelling in my gloots but it whent down in about 5 days or so any ideas on what to do ?

 

[RJ]

Hey guys i need help ok for some reason or another i wasnt educated on how to give an injection the right way because when i injected myself for the 4th time with 250 per ml test in my quad i pointed the needle in different directions to see if it would help with absorbing the test better and the pain and hopefully not swell as bad also i put the 1 and 1/4" needle in all the way so i did it wrong, everything was steral i did everything right except the injection it my leg is swollen at the sight and i have light redness on the skin im not running any feaver or anything like that i feel fine all except the redness kinda worries me its been 3 days and it seems to be getting easer to walk and move it . I have already experianced pain and swelling in my gloots but it whent down in about 5 days or so any ideas on what to do ?

1. don't hijack this thread. Start your own.
2. Learn to punctuate and make paragraphs.
3. Go see a doctor.

 

[RJ]

350 isn't low it great. The truth is 350 a week is all you should ever need. There are a lot of people using a lot more and there not getting any more from it. the body can only use so much.

I agree to a point. Alot of that depends on goals. But even with that being said, even by keeping test at a low dose and adding in other compounds for growth and synergy, 350-500 is all you need.

Unfortunately this, like most things will usually fall on deaf ears.

 

[gkixxerr]

I agree to a point. Alot of that depends on goals. But even with that being said, even by keeping test at a low dose and adding in other compounds for growth and synergy, 350-500 is all you need.

Unfortunately this, like most things will usually fall on deaf ears.

I am going to be very conservative with these drugs, as I do know how dangerous these things can be, but for the most part I am only going to take 350 because it is my first cycle. I will never go over 500, because like you have said, is all you ever really need.

 

[RJ]

I am going to be very conservative with these drugs, as I do know how dangerous these things can be, but for the most part I am only going to take 350 because it is my first cycle. I will never go over 500, because like you have said, is all you ever really need.

if you can realize how training intensity, nutrition and rest outweighs anabolic use you will be at a HUGE advantage over the majority of the guys around.

for the 1000000000000th time, AAS is just a tool. At the end of the day, you will always be able to tell who's body is built on hard work and dedication, and who's is built on juice.

 

[gkixxerr]

if you can realize how training intensity, nutrition and rest outweighs anabolic use you will be at a HUGE advantage over the majority of the guys around.

for the 1000000000000th time, AAS is just a tool. At the end of the day, you will always be able to tell who's body is built on hard work and dedication, and who's is built on juice.

Yeah, you are 100% right.

My diet is good. I am getting more calories and protein than the guy 3 doors down on walfare that weight 600lbs. Lol. My training has always been very intense and I am more consistant in the gym than most anyone I know.

 

[gkixxerr]

i dont understand why everyone has such a hard time finding a first cycle layout. when i researched mine the only question i had was how much aromasin to take. if you cant answer dose duration and PCT on your own, then your either not trying or really not trying.

I am researching, just as I said before. However, I am not find too much information about what to do if say, my nuts started to shrivel to the size of a mustard seed. Those are things I need to know before I begin to use, but I have tried that simple little search engine at the top right, and it didn't seem to give much help. Maybe I wasn't typing in the right keyword, I don't know, but that is why I post questions. If I don't find something I am looking for, I will make a post, just as I have in this thread, as well as the other just before this.

Thanks to help from the ology community, I know now how much clomid to take, as well as nolva and hopefully the dosages will work for a test only cycle, and then a dbol and test cycle, but I don't know and I sure as hell don't want to find out the hard way, so I don't think there is anything wrong with posting questions when you have them.

Why should I wait a year to get all the information I need to begin a cycle because everyone wants me to be here for x amount of months before I post a question, when I could take 6 months and ask questions along with research and get myself in gear?
When these people tell me to do research as if I am not in the first place, I don't like it, and I would rather those people not even post on my thread if they are not going to be of any help.

There are a wide variety of people who have been helping me with all of my questions and giving me advise, and I thank you all for that.

I am not specifically directing this message to you, just so you know.

 

[RJ]

I am not specifically directing this message to you, just so you know.

Det wasn't directing that to only you Gixxer. It just gets really old answering the same shit over and over again when its been talked about a million times.

There is nothing wrong with asking questions. Some guys here get a little internet ego and act tough, and I think you're first post issues stemed from a little of that as well. Don't sweat it.

FYI, when you use the search engine, you can type in any number of keywords.

 

[gkixxerr]

Det wasn't directing that to only you Gixxer. It just gets really old answering the same shit over and over again when its been talked about a million times.

There is nothing wrong with asking questions. Some guys here get a little internet ego and act tough, and I think you're first post issues stemed from a little of that as well. Don't sweat it.

FYI, when you use the search engine, you can type in any number of keywords.

Since I know that taking test only is fine, and is a good first cycle(which was my origional question), I don't know if I am allowed to change the topic or if I have to start a new thread but I will go ahead and put it out there and say this.

[1] - If I start to cycle, and my nuts start to shrink the answer would be, HCG. Or I should actually run it in the cycle from what i've been told.

[2] - If I start to lose my hair then Proscar would be adequate.

[3] - To pervent Gyno (Bitch Titts) I add Clomid and/or Nolva. For example, Clomid
Wk 1 - 75/ Wk 2 - 50/ Wk 3 - 50/ Wk 4 - 25/

Nolva
Wk 1 - 40/ Wk 2 - 40/ Wk 3 - 20/ Wk 4 -10/

Now should I over lap these drungs into my cycle to where once I come off my cycle, I still am on the Nolva and/or clomid?

Just running this through the vets and anyone who can be of some assistance.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

^^^^ yup well said, not just at you

I just want guys to understand how important it is to do the research yourself, not just cause we dont want to help, but when you learn on your own instead of taking someone else's view you can make a decision for yourself, instead of just doing what someone told you to do.

 

[djm6464]

Since I know that taking test only is fine, and is a good first cycle(which was my origional question), I don't know if I am allowed to change the topic or if I have to start a new thread but I will go ahead and put it out there and say this.

[1] - If I start to cycle, and my nuts start to shrink the answer would be, HCG. Or I should actually run it in the cycle from what i've been told.

[2] - If I start to lose my hair then Proscar would be adequate.

[3] - To pervent Gyno (Bitch Titts) I add Clomid and/or Nolva. For example, Clomid
Wk 1 - 75/ Wk 2 - 50/ Wk 3 - 50/ Wk 4 - 25/

Nolva
Wk 1 - 40/ Wk 2 - 40/ Wk 3 - 20/ Wk 4 -10/

Now should I over lap these drungs into my cycle to where once I come off my cycle, I still am on the Nolva and/or clomid?

Just running this through the vets and anyone who can be of some assistance.

run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) starting wk 2 or 3, every 3rd/4th day 250iu to start, itll do the job if its just test, you balls will shrink somewhat regardless, but the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will help minimize the shutdown making pct a little less rough

i would avoid a serm like nolva/clomid on cycle, get oyur hands on an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), personally i like aromasin, and if you notice you seem to bloat or retain a bit too much water, start dosing it at 12.5mg ed(aromasin), gyno will resullt after too much aromatization, however controlling this aspect with an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) will all but eliminate the issue, also at only 350mg i doubt you will even need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unless you were very overweight making you more likely to be a victim of aromatization. only use the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if needed tho, you wouldnt take medicine if you aint sick....a little estro is good on cycle

 

[RJ]

only use the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if needed tho, you wouldnt take medicine if you aint sick....a little estro is good on cycle

thank god for this statement. bout time someone else said it. lol

I will disagree with you about Nolva though. Tamox is a great combatant against gyno without sacrificing some of the benefits of added estrogen (strength, etc.).

Either way Gixxer, just don't over complicate things. Have what you need on hand and get busy.

 

[aso_sr06@yahoo.com]

1. don't hijack this thread. Start your own.
2. Learn to punctuate and make paragraphs.
3. Go see a doctor.

1. I wasnt trying to hijack your lil fucking playpin!
2. Your info. helped me none, I knew that i could go to the doc. duh! I was actually seeing if anyone has had the same experionce and could be reasuring that it was good or if i really needed to get medical help.
3. You honestly look like shit and should really consider seeing a doc. see if he got something for dick face! OHHH ya and by the way i have mroe education and make more money than you could emagen! So next time thata friendly guy is looking for help on a webpage dont be such a fucking dick!

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

1. I wasnt trying to hijack your lil fucking playpin!
2. Your info. helped me none, I knew that i could go to the doc. duh! I was actually seeing if anyone has had the same experionce and could be reasuring that it was good or if i really needed to get medical help.
3. You honestly look like shit and should really consider seeing a doc. see if he got something for dick face! OHHH ya and by the way i have mroe education and make more money than you could emagen! So next time thata friendly guy is looking for help on a webpage dont be such a fucking dick!

Intriguing sentiments. Especially with the profound disregard of basic grammatical skills pertaining to your discourse. What exactly was your major? Creative reinvention of existing linguistics? Emagen certainly is a creative way of saying imagine. You say your compensation is level is profligate. What exactly do you get for a word like emagen?

Your clearly do not have the appetency required to challenge a veteran like RJ so please feel free to take your creative linguistics degree elsewhere.

 

[djm6464]

1. I wasnt trying to hijack your lil fucking playpin!
2. Your info. helped me none, I knew that i could go to the doc. duh! I was actually seeing if anyone has had the same experionce and could be reasuring that it was good or if i really needed to get medical help.
3. You honestly look like shit and should really consider seeing a doc. see if he got something for dick face! OHHH ya and by the way i have mroe education and make more money than you could emagen! So next time thata friendly guy is looking for help on a webpage dont be such a fucking dick!

i dont know, but he seems in shape to me

as for the education, hard to imagine from the manner in which you post...as for the money, i dont buy it seeing you went out of you way to say it

 

[RA64]

1. I wasnt trying to hijack your lil fucking playpin!
2. Your info. helped me none, I knew that i could go to the doc. duh! I was actually seeing if anyone has had the same experionce and could be reasuring that it was good or if i really needed to get medical help.
3. You honestly look like shit and should really consider seeing a doc. see if he got something for dick face! OHHH ya and by the way i have mroe education and make more money than you could emagen! So next time thata friendly guy is looking for help on a webpage dont be such a fucking dick!

Yeah, I can tell you are highly educated.

Do you ever get tired of saying, would you like fries with that at your job?

 

[DADAWG]

1. I wasnt trying to hijack your lil fucking playpin!
2. Your info. helped me none, I knew that i could go to the doc. duh! I was actually seeing if anyone has had the same experionce and could be reasuring that it was good or if i really needed to get medical help.
3. You honestly look like shit and should really consider seeing a doc. see if he got something for dick face! OHHH ya and by the way i have mroe education and make more money than you could emagen! So next time thata friendly guy is looking for help on a webpage dont be such a fucking dick!

youve been warned , 1 more post like that and your gone.

 

[Teutonic]

hehehe ^^^
..and another one bite s the dust...jeez..the inability to take a little abuse round here is staggering...you d think the drive through would have steeled him for the less than complimentatry feedback.