test only, why?

[Mr. Humdiddly]

slightly off topic but related, but from reading it sounds like the only other injectable that makes a BIG difference in adding to a cycle is tren. all the other ones are pretty much negligible. would you agree?

Probably should start another thread so I won't get technical on this one.

Different compounds are used for different purposes. Even esters can make a difference in results. So if your looking to get straight bulk Test no est would work better then Tren as far a scale weight goes. Tren may put more muscle on you but, test no est gives more pure bulk.

So it depends on what your goals, diet, and training are like.

 

[Olthetime]

Just for my 2c's. I am not far off being ready for my first course and I was in your exact position such a short time ago that I can pherhaps relate closer than most. I was up and down on why one not the other. Why not a Nor-19 and what the hell is the difference in all these tests?

What helped me was reducing it to its simplist form completely. All testosteerones are the same when stripped from the ester. No difference. All we change is the delay in absorbtion, ie when the ester is broken down the test becomes active. So now we know why a blend like Sus is so useful because it contaiens long and short esters meaning a somewhat even blood concentration throughout. Test is at the end of the day the centre of all things male and how we become a super version of male.

Now to your point of why not put a Nor-19 the simple retort when starting out is "well why do it?". All Nor-19's are hepatically metabolised (liver) and are ALL HEPATOXIC. This is why there used in short duration and the jury is out on how well the liver ever recovers (IMO it is a resilliant organ and probably does recover really well provided not overexposed). When you are about to take your first step into this environment you cant overemphasize safety so like the guys above said learn how your body responds. Your genetic code is very individual to you.

Finally lets face it, its your first course and you wont be holding incredible amounts of mass so you wont need incredible amounts of hormone to increase in size from where you are. This isnt your only course most likely so there is no need to try and get it all in one. You will grow with just test easily from you start (assuming all else is equal, training eating etc) and when you go back for more your base will be better from last time and more will be needed to grow from it. Enjoy the journey cos there is a limit

 

[Mr. Humdiddly]

What helped me was reducing it to its simplist form completely. All testosteerones are the same when stripped from the ester. No difference.

Well as you stated rate of absorption is the difference, but his can vary depending on individual cyclic esterase production. However some forms will always give quicker gains and exit the body faster then others. Example: Test Prop has less issues with aromatase due to shorter half life. Thus reducing water weight.

Now to your point of why not put a Nor-19 the simple retort when starting out is "well why do it?". All Nor-19's are hepatically metabolised (liver) and are ALL HEPATOXIC. This is why there used in short duration and the jury is out on how well the liver ever recovers.

You can find quite a few studies on liver recovery. I would argue the jury is in and recovery is a proven fact.

 

[PartyCan]

ive never had a limp dick on test or deca for that matter evern on more deca then test an all HG gear at 700mg's a week...

all i get is my balls vanish as i carnt find them lol...

you never see a porn star with limp dick lol an there on lots of gear ( ass )

i can run more deca then test for 12 or 14 week's and still get my dick hard no problem's at all... just no ball's lol

 

[B-BOI]

well once again we have a newbie asking a question and a
bunch of roided dopes not giving a answer just being fuckwits.

Roided up fuckwit !

That hurt my feelings I might be a bit of an asshat but fuckwit, come on.

all u need to do is answer the fucking question!

Why not wack off with a hand full of razor blades?? WTF, unbeleivable to get shit like this as a answer.

Well I think it was a well thought out answer. If you do a cycle of deca\dbol will be like wacking off with a handful of razorblades. It may have not been a scientific answer but no doubt a creative one.

 

[ape351]

hahaha 10 points for creativity!!!
roided fuckwits.... i just became one yesterday, i started a 12 week sus cycle
with 4 week dbol kickstart! c how i go.