Testosterone Prop for cutting Enanthate for bulking.. blah blah blah

[ponshoe]

Im sick of these kind of statements
sometimes, yeah I see some kind of logic, but (correct me if im wrong), isn't Test just ''TEST'', its not like u r using other compound, you are just switching the ''ester'' the duration the compound will stay in your body, and the same hormone peaks can be reach with both. Yeah, there are benefits like getting the compound out of the body quicker in case u r competeing and if ur tested or if the compound suited you bad, but other than that like in terms of bloat, none.

So I see WAY to often this and that, '' Im using 500mg test E/300mg Tren E for cutting, watcha think? .- Bro, ur doing it wrong, ur not ready for teh roidz, u shall use prop and ace, those are the cutters...u will get like michellin goodyear '' arghhh..!

and I have asked this before but no one told me the science behind this and thats all I can understand from logic, test is test, independent of the ester, it will aromatize at ''x'' dose, again..independent of the ester.

 

[RJ]

yes, you are correct. the hormones are the same.

people say most of what they say on these boards because they read it somewhere else and have no personal experience with it. That's why you have 20year old 'vets' on boards only based on their post count and how many rep blocks they have.

You can cut or bulk on any steroid out there. ANY STEROID OUT THERE.

Diet is what dictates whether you cut or bulk, not the hormone itself. certainly not the ester attached.

The only caveat to this is making sure to be able to keep blod levels stable, and watching sides produced (prolactin, estro, etc) thru the use of ancillaries.

 

[ezred]

hey, i'm 28, ass.

 

[RJ]

hey, i'm 28, ass.

and i said 20 year olds.

Are you 20 years old?

Dipshit.

 

[tednatas]

this place gets worse every day

 

[ponshoe]

Kinda

 

[juced_porkchop]

i use teste or cyp maybe even Sustanon (sust) for cutting.

 

[UserAt204]

Well plan on seeing these post for as long as you stay around because 90% of the population thinks there are cutting or bulking AAS. Ignorance is contagious.

 

[redsoxnation1988]

Well plan on seeing these post for as long as you stay around because 90% of the population thinks there are cutting or bulking AAS. Ignorance is contagious.[/QUOT

i do understand tht diet comes in factor when you are either bulking or cutting ... but there are certain compounds tht could aid as to what your goals are if your either trying to cut or bulk .... some of you guys saying tht you can cut with any compound as long as your diet and cardio is on point ..... but put it this way ..... ill use this as an example ..... can you seriously cut even if your on a strict cutting diet and you want the full benefit of your cycle running either anadrol or dbol also with deca along with a heavy ester of test such as cyp or enanth or even some type of test blend wich can deff make you hold some water ..... instead of you going with other compounds tht could aid if your on a cutting diet even if your diet is a little off point ... compounds such as a light ester of test like prop or PP, suspension, primo, para/tren hex, tren ace/enanth, Winstrol (winny), mast ...etc etc ...knowing what compounds to choose if your either cutting or bulking really helps you achieve the goals you want and get the full benefit of your cycle along with your diet

 

[UserAt204]

You can cut with either of the compounds listed. Water retention is mostly diet and maybe some estro but mostly diet. Some compounds work better for certain things but you can use ANY AAS for cutting and bulking. If you don't agree that's fine but that tells me you don't understand them properly

There is no such thing as a cutting or bulking AAS, they may work better to do one or the other but that's all. Example, Winstrol (winny) is very weak for bulking but can be used to do so.
Dbol is usually used to bulk because it holds water easily with the right diet but if you are eating properly you can cut just as well.

 

[cashout]

yes, you are correct. the hormones are the same.

people say most of what they say on these boards because they read it somewhere else and have no personal experience with it. That's why you have 20year old 'vets' on boards only based on their post count and how many rep blocks they have.

You can cut or bulk on any steroid out there. ANY STEROID OUT THERE.

Diet is what dictates whether you cut or bulk, not the hormone itself. certainly not the ester attached.

The only caveat to this is making sure to be able to keep blod levels stable, and watching sides produced (prolactin, estro, etc) thru the use of ancillaries.

4 Yeses to each of statement above. In addition...

Esters merely slow the dispersion of the drug into one's system they do nothing to change its efficacy.

As RJ stated, experience and knowledge are a premium commodities and in short supply here.

 

[UserAt204]

^^^ exactly

Red you can't be trying to make that argument based on ester!!!!
Thank you for proving my point. I understand what you are trying to say, but it simply is not true. Once you have put some time in and you have tried cutting and bulking with these compound, then explain it to me. Last year I bulked with test E, Tren Ace, and Masteron propionate. Sure I could have choose deca and dbol or whatever but I didnt and I gained a lot of weight from that cycle.

Experience works better than a drug profile.

 

[rocko3927]

my next cycle will be a test e / deca cycle that will carry me into the summer and it will be a cutting cycle or shall i say cutting time for me.......

 

[Die$eL~Man]

its all about the diet ,

 

[RJ]

i do understand tht diet comes in factor when you are either bulking or cutting ... but there are certain compounds tht could aid as to what your goals are if your either trying to cut or bulk .... some of you guys saying tht you can cut with any compound as long as your diet and cardio is on point ..... but put it this way ..... ill use this as an example ..... can you seriously cut even if your on a strict cutting diet and you want the full benefit of your cycle running either anadrol or dbol also with deca along with a heavy ester of test such as cyp or enanth or even some type of test blend wich can deff make you hold some water ..... instead of you going with other compounds tht could aid if your on a cutting diet even if your diet is a little off point ... compounds such as a light ester of test like prop or PP, suspension, primo, para/tren hex, tren ace/enanth, Winstrol (winny), mast ...etc etc ...knowing what compounds to choose if your either cutting or bulking really helps you achieve the goals you want and get the full benefit of your cycle along with your diet

red, i see where you are trying to go with this. First of all, i'm not sure what you mean by a light or heavy ester. Its been explained that an esters responsibility is simply to slow the absorption rate of the hormone.

Anyway, back to your question. You bring up a good point, which are goals. Now, most people wouldn't think to do Anadrol and Deca with test while cutting, but it can be done with a solid diet. And yes people like to use Tren ace with Prop as tren doesn't aromatize, which means no estro conversion which limits water retention and other sides. But those two compounds can be used to bulk. So that would depend on your goals, but again, you can cut or add mass with any drug out there. There may be drugs that make it easier to do either one, but with the right diet, any of them will work.

Its like the old adage of using lightweight and high reps to get cut, which IMO is garbage. you wanna get cut, lift heavy weights. You wanna add mass, lift heavy weight. The only difference is your diet.

If you eat big and lift big, you'll get big. If you eat small and lift small, you'll stay small.

 

[PUMPJUNKY]

people like to use Tren ace with Prop as tren doesn't aromatize, which means no estro conversion which limits water retention and other sides.
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I think most people have the misunderstanding from the water retention. I blow up like a balloon on long ester when i come off and the bloat is gonna i still have the same quality muscle as you do when runnin a short ester that doesnt cause as much bloat so it appears that you are "Cutting". All in all you can just see the the development better with some compounds