testoviron advice

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rocket19

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hello all

just looking for advice on my 2nd cycle, my 1st was a winnie only cycle with good results but am now about to start a testoviron cycle, 1st cycle of testosterone. i have 20ml 250mg per ml

would just like some advice on dosage and a cycle layout, im thinkin 10 week cycle, 1.5ml a week along those lines, looking to lean up gain muscle and size but avoid sides such as bloating. also have 100 anavar tabs 10mg per tab.

also where i live its hard to get your hands on some good pct, may be able to get novaldex but no certain and cant get any of the others, wondering if there is a sufficient stack of otc products that will get the job done for such a light 1st cycle?
 
all otc products are junk...its one massive scam to get one over on people that are stupid lol if you cant get a post cycle therapy (pct) then you best not run a cycle...do you want to have to be on test for the rest of your life?? because your hormones will crash and may not fully recuperate...your first cycle was fuckin stupid...orals only?? come on now...you need to do some research.

Let me just ask you this....do you know that this is your body??? do you drink oil? why dont you drink oil?? because its bad for you duh...now why do you do drugs that you dont even know what they do to you...good and bad?? you already shut your test down once without even taking anything to boost it back to normal levels....\

Im sick of all these people talking about test bloat...wtf. If you want to bloat take some dbol...If you knew how to run test you would know how to control the water retention..

From what it sounds to me...you just need to get a very good diet and gain all you want

and dont do the anavar
 
i did a post cycle therapy (pct) for the stanazol and it wasnt oral it was injected.

i should have stacked it but didnt, because im a rookie.

my diet and training are in check iv been in the gym since i was 15 and i believe i have reached my full natural potencial. some advice would be great for this next cycle not criticism, how did u start, were u an advanced steroid user before your 1st injection ever? people need to learn and the only way is to gain advice and try new things. i friend just ran a stack including 600mg of test enth and came of the cycle useing novadex which is legal and other legal post cycle therapy (pct) and has kept most gains and has no problems in the bedroom or with any of the other sides.
 
rocket19 said:
i did a post cycle therapy (pct) for the stanazol and it wasnt oral it was injected.

i should have stacked it but didnt, because im a rookie.

my diet and training are in check iv been in the gym since i was 15 and i believe i have reached my full natural potencial. some advice would be great for this next cycle not criticism, how did u start, were u an advanced steroid user before your 1st injection ever? people need to learn and the only way is to gain advice and try new things. i friend just ran a stack including 600mg of test enth and came of the cycle useing novadex which is legal and other legal post cycle therapy (pct) and has kept most gains and has no problems in the bedroom or with any of the other sides.
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ok my mistake on assuming you ran an oral only cycle...I think Im just use to everyone starting out doing that....post up your stats..bf% age weight height

and by the way...the way I started is exactly why I became a member on this site...I listened to my friends and they didnt know what they were talking about. Since I was a newb I just blindly followed them...when I figured out half way through the cycle that something wasnt right I started researching what they were telling me....lets just say that they are not my friends anymore...

as far as your second cycle goes...which I think your making a good choice running test...you should be able to do 2ml a week at 500mg...that will get you 10 weeks even if your stuff isnt short filled. I wouldnt do the anavar because since test needs to be your base to every cycle you really need to find out how your body is going to react to it...and if you throw in the anavar and you get sides you wont know which one your sides came from and you wont know which one to adjust...run the test first...then your "second" cycle you can add another compound....knowledge is key to this game bro

and I am serious about post cycle therapy (pct)...if you cant get one then dont run the cycle...nolvadex is just fine if you can get that
 
sounds good mate.

im 25
6ft1
94kg
14%bf

anything else u need 2 know?

and yes i could have just followed along with them but have chose to wait and research before starting test.
 
also what if i added the anavar in the latar stages of the cycle after i know how my body reacts, or still not a good idea?
 
rocket19 said:
sounds good mate.

im 25
6ft1
94kg
14%bf

anything else u need 2 know?

and yes i could have just followed along with them but have chose to wait and research before starting test.
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well you are heavier than I was when I started but your also 1 inch taller...so proly about the same..

Good fuckin move to advance on your own...from my experience...doing my own homework has paid off ten fold over listening to others...most people out there that run cycles have no idea what they are actually doing...

one more suggestion...if you can get some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) that would def help you keep more gains than just doing a pct

you need any more help bro you know where to go!
 
Good advice. Here's another thing, if you don't like some of the answers up front, search around. There is so much info here and you will learn more than what we tell you because there is so much. There are threads on post cycle therapy (pct). There are threads on how to cycle. We have all spent countless hours reading about these things along with experience. Take it for what it's worth and you will very happy with the end result. Most of us have made enough mistakes and since it's all posted here you can learn from them.
 
rocket19 said:
also what if i added the anavar in the latar stages of the cycle after i know how my body reacts, or still not a good idea?
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I would just hold off on the anavar...there should be no rush to this game. take your time and you will surpass others that think more is better...trust me...Im doing it
 
who is rj and what are you on about sniffing things out, i purchest the anavar and dont want to see it go 2 waste but will hold off on it anyway
 
i think i am going to stack the anavar, i have novaldex on hand. started the testoviron today, any ideas on when to introduce the anavar in and for how long and what dosage, i was thinking around week 4 and useing 30-40mg per day?
 
rocket19 said:
i think i am going to stack the anavar, i have novaldex on hand. started the testoviron today, any ideas on when to introduce the anavar in and for how long and what dosage, i was thinking around week 4 and useing 30-40mg per day?
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it all depends on what you are trying to get out of it...it wont go to waste if you save it for your next cycle....dont rush bro...just hold off..

rj is one of the very popular vets here and is rutheless but knows his shit
 
anavar.... you should run it at a high dose if you're gonna run it. everything i read and hear about it leads me to believe running it at 50mg/day MINIMUM, but up closer to or at 100mg/day is best, and anything less is pretty much a waste.

it is like primo... if you're gonna cough up the green to run it, don't run a poor man's dose. fuck the poor, run a MAN'S dose.

you currently have enough for 20 days at the lower end, 10 days of a nice dose.....

no matter how you cut that pie, it'll be a waste. get another few hundred tabs if you're gonna run it.

my opinion anyway. ignore the shit out of it if you want.
 
ezred said:
anavar.... you should run it at a high dose if you're gonna run it. everything i read and hear about it leads me to believe running it at 50mg/day MINIMUM, but up closer to or at 100mg/day is best, and anything less is pretty much a waste.

it is like primo... if you're gonna cough up the green to run it, don't run a poor man's dose. fuck the poor, run a MAN'S dose.

you currently have enough for 20 days at the lower end, 10 days of a nice dose.....

no matter how you cut that pie, it'll be a waste. get another few hundred tabs if you're gonna run it.

my opinion anyway. ignore the shit out of it if you want.
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ya the shit is def pricey...IMO not worth it but everyone has an opinion on var...I think I would prefer to spend that money on food myself.

Who could ever ignore you? your so dam cute and cuddly wuddly
 
thanx for the advice, i could get another 100 or so tabs if i needed to even tho they are expensive i agree but thats not to much of an issue, il see how this testoviron goes without it, should i expect it to kick in around week 5? il do some more research on Anavar (var) in the mean time.
 
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