The Brotherhood Cycle

[DTL]

Hey guys, ive been lurking on this site and many others for about 4 years and finally decided to post now that im ready for gear.

Myself and 2 friends of mine are pooling money to order all the gear in bulk thus reducing the price. We have a legit supplier that has great gear tested by other friends of ours.

We have all been training for a long time and we have all had a clean bulking diet for quite some time.

The work outs are bullet proof, tested and proven by many bodybuilders and olympic athletes.

The cycle looks like this!

30mg ED Dbol, weeks 1-4
750mg test e, Weeks 1-12
HCG 250-500 every 3 days, weeks 1-13 (depending on the individual)
20mg ED Nolva weeks 14-18 (imput welcome)
AI's on hand just in case of gyno

Please share your thoughts or concerns on the cycle. Imput will be taken with great consideration!

Thanks guys,

-DTL

 

[DADAWG]

Hey guys, ive been lurking on this site and many others for about 4 years and finally decided to post now that im ready for gear.

Myself and 2 friends of mine are pooling money to order all the gear in bulk thus reducing the price. We have a legit supplier that has great gear tested by other friends of ours.

We have all been training for a long time and we have all had a clean bulking diet for quite some time.

The work outs are bullet proof, tested and proven by many bodybuilders and olympic athletes.

The cycle looks like this!

30mg ED Dbol, weeks 1-4
750mg test e, Weeks 1-12
HCG 250-500 every 3 days, weeks 1-13 (depending on the individual)
20mg ED Nolva weeks 14-18 (imput welcome)
AI's on hand just in case of gyno

Please share your thoughts or concerns on the cycle. Imput will be taken with great consideration!

Thanks guys,

-DTL

welcome to OLOGY

typical 1st cycle is 400-600 mg for 10-12 weeks i would skip the dbol and at least consider dropping the test dose a little if its a 1st cycle.the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) looks good but i suggest adding clomid to post cycle therapy.

 

[DTL]

Thanks for the input Dawg, Ill drop the test to 500. If you dont mind me asking and maybe some other members will chime in. Why not front load with Dbol? Also what is the reasoning behind adding the clomid to the PCT?

Thanks again,

-DTL

 

[DADAWG]

Thanks for the input Dawg, Ill drop the test to 500. If you dont mind me asking and maybe some other members will chime in. Why not front load with Dbol? Also what is the reasoning behind adding the clomid to the PCT?

Thanks again,

-DTL

if you have never cycled before and you use 2 steroids how do you know which made you grow or which is giving you side effects. also the average 1st time cycler will grow like a weed on a solid test only cycle. if you guys are over 21 and have trained for years you could bump the test to 600 mg a week divided into 2 injections for 12 weeks . clomid is more effective for post cycle therpy than nolva IMO.

 

[DTL]

So Drop the Nolva all together and go with clomid?

Edited Cycle by suggestion:

600mg test e, Weeks 1-12
HCG 250-500 every 3 days, weeks 1-13 (depending on the individual)
Clomid Therapy weeks 14-16 (imput welcome)
AI's on hand just in case of gyno

Thanks Dawg,

-DTL

 

[DTL]

Cycle as suggested:

600mg test e, Weeks 1-12
HCG 250-500 every 3 days, weeks 1-13 (depending on the individual)
Clomid PCT weeks 14-16 (imput welcome)
AI's on hand just in case of gyno


Thanks Dawg,

-DTL

 

[Stangostrone]

I agree with everything said hear, I dont think its a bad idea to add the dbol at the begining but what dadawg said is true..and def drop the test to 5-600mg a week. And I would also start the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) right away at a low dose bc Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) gave me gyno problems run twice a week. Also 250iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) every 4 days is all you will need to stay from getting shut down.

 

[Stangostrone]

Oh and i forgot you want to stop the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 weeks before you start PCT.

 

[DTL]

Thanks for the input Stangostrone, I figured 10 weeks of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) so that still works perfect. The AI's will run .25mg ED as suggested.

Start the AI's at day one and end on the last day of week 12?

Cycle Edited:

600mg test e, Weeks 1-12
HCG 250-500 every 4 days, weeks 1-13 (depending on the individual)
Clomid PCT weeks 14-16 (imput welcome)
AI's .25 ED Weeks 1-12

 

[Teutonic]

...and I applaud dadawg s call..I d keep an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on tap but you may not bloat to bad or get gyno..just cuz HE got gyno don t mean YOU will..( no disrespect ) ...less shit in your body is better..imo cept for food.
your gonna have a wonderful run..maximize this with lot s of food rest no alcohol, partying..sleep all you can..

 

[DADAWG]

you guys start a cycle log in cycle forum and keep track of your progress

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Oh and i forgot you want to stop the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2 weeks before you start PCT.

why? this is the most important time to run it.

 

[DADAWG]

why? this is the most important time to run it.

actually if run from the start your nuts shouldnt shrink in 2 weeks but im with you and would run it to about 4-5 days before clomid.do not run it after pct starts.

 

[DTL]

Cycle Log will be done! I cant wait to see how it effects the 3 of us individually!

As far as the conflicting stories on the HCG??? Id have to take the advice of a more experienced member.

Edited once agian to fit

600mg test e, Weeks 1-12
HCG 250-500 every 4 days, weeks 1-13.25 (depending on the individual)
Clomid PCT weeks 14-16 (imput welcome)
AI's .25 ED Weeks 1-12

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

yup 4 days before PCT should work great.

from what ive learned it is very important to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during the T decline-this is the time it helps stimulate Gnrh........this is also why clomid is a better choice for PCT than Nolva-we forget that there are whole lot more mechanisms that need to be restarted besides our balls.........the HPTA is a very complex system.

 

[DADAWG]

some run clomid at 50 mg a week for 4 weeks , im old school i like 300 mg day 1 , 100 mg for 10 days and 50 mg for 10 days but 50 can be run longer.

 

[DTL]

DaDawg, That is how i was planning on running the clomid. 300 Day 1 ect..

Thanks for the conformation

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Your PCT timing is off....

Cycle ends after 12 weeks, you need to wait two weeks (13 & 14) before starting post cycle therapy (pct), so that puts PCT starting at week 15, not 14 as stated.

Clomid @ 50mg/day for 4 weeks.

 

[DTL]

StoneColdNTO, The Error on PCT was my numbers not my logic, i know i need to wait 2 weeks to start post cycle therapy (pct). Sorry for the confusion and thanks for catching it!

600mg test e, Weeks 1-12
HCG 250-500 every 4 days, weeks 1-13.25 (depending on the individual)
Clomid PCT weeks 15-17 tapering or weeks 15-18 50mg ED (imput welcome)
AI's .25 ED Weeks 1-12

Thanks again to all the mods and managers for helping out. Its really nice to see that you guys care about the beginners as well.

-DTL

 

[DADAWG]

Your PCT timing is off....

Cycle ends after 12 weeks, you need to wait two weeks (13 & 14) before starting post cycle therapy (pct), so that puts PCT starting at week 15, not 14 as stated.

Clomid @ 50mg/day for 4 weeks.

GOOD CATCH


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