took 600mg (wk) of deca by mistake

[famousjoel18]

New to the form... whats up? new to everything actually so all help is appreciated.

I'm 28, 5'8 and 162lbs. Running my first cycle of:

Test E - 500mg a/wk
Deca - 300mg a/wk
Dbol - 30mg ed (6 wks)

The deca comes in 300mg a ml. The problem is I didn't think and shot 1ml on Monday and another ml today (Thursday) when is hould have done half and half. I plan on just dropping down to the normal dose on Monday, should everything be fine? Should I add some more Test to level it out? So to be clear as of today I've shot 2x 250mg(500mg) Test E and 2x 300mg(600mg) Deca.

 

[oldmusclemike]

That's no problem, some people front load much more. Don't do that , I'm just showing the point, no worries.

GIve us your stats,
wt
ht
BF%
years training
goal of this cycle
the cycle as it All lays out w/pct

Please so if we suggest anything we can talk with me n the others

 

[famousjoel18]

Been training since I was 21. Never really tried bulking to just hit the gym to stay in shape. My plan is to bulk up, hopefully get around 180-190 if possible.

The cycle with PCT is:

Wk 1-12 400mg a/wk of Test E
Wk 1-10 300mg a/wk of Deca
Wk 1-6 30mg ed of Dbol
PCT:
Begins 10 days after last injection.
Wk 1-2 350ui of HCG (10 straight days)
Wk 2-3 40mg nolvadex ed
Wk 4-5 20mg nolvadex ed

My stats are in the post, just don't know what my BF% is at the moment. Just decided I wanted to get bigger.

 

[famousjoel18]

There is a program I found called Y3T that ive been following.

 

[Megatron28]

Been training since I was 21. Never really tried bulking to just hit the gym to stay in shape. My plan is to bulk up, hopefully get around 180-190 if possible.

The cycle with PCT is:

Wk 1-12 400mg a/wk of Test E
Wk 1-10 300mg a/wk of Deca
Wk 1-6 30mg ed of Dbol
PCT:
Begins 10 days after last injection.
Wk 1-2 350ui of HCG (10 straight days)
Wk 2-3 40mg nolvadex ed
Wk 4-5 20mg nolvadex ed

My stats are in the post, just don't know what my BF% is at the moment. Just decided I wanted to get bigger.

No hCG during PCT. It is suppressive to the HPTA.

hCG should be used during your cycle to prevent testicular atrophy which will result in a faster recover during PCT.

Deca for 10 weeks is not worth running. It takes a while for the ester to kick in -- you will be stopping it just as it is starting to shine. If you are going to use Deca add another 4-6 weeks to your cycle or switch to NPP.

No AI?

Do you have a DA on hand?

Where's your clomid in PCT?

Blood work plans?

 

[DickBlazer]

Shit man deca works awesome at 600mg a week. 300 for 10 weeks is probably not worth much except some joint relief. It takes like 8 weeks for it to really take off for me at double that dosage.

 

[tbonexl]

Since this is your first cycle, drop the deca and just run test with all the ancillaries, hcg, and pct. If your not schooled up on this stuff, read the ology faq's thread. It's in megatron's signature...

 

[Roush]

New to the form... whats up? new to everything actually so all help is appreciated.

I'm 28, 5'8 and 162lbs. Running my first cycle of:

Test E - 500mg a/wk
Deca - 300mg a/wk
Dbol - 30mg ed (6 wks)

The deca comes in 300mg a ml. The problem is I didn't think and shot 1ml on Monday and another ml today (Thursday) when is hould have done half and half. I plan on just dropping down to the normal dose on Monday, should everything be fine? Should I add some more Test to level it out? So to be clear as of today I've shot 2x 250mg(500mg) Test E and 2x 300mg(600mg) Deca.

accidentally shooting 600 mg of deca instead of your planned 300 is not your problem .. your whole cycle as a 'first time' cycle is your problem , with those 3 compounds your going to have a hard time learning how to control your bodies aromatization .

 

[oldmusclemike]

Been training since I was 21. Never really tried bulking to just hit the gym to stay in shape. My plan is to bulk up, hopefully get around 180-190 if possible.

The cycle with PCT is:

Wk 1-12 400mg a/wk of Test E
Wk 1-10 300mg a/wk of Deca
Wk 1-6 30mg ed of Dbol
PCT:
Begins 10 days after last injection.
Wk 1-2 350ui of HCG (10 straight days)
Wk 2-3 40mg nolvadex ed
Wk 4-5 20mg nolvadex ed

My stats are in the post, just don't know what my BF% is at the moment. Just decided I wanted to get bigger.[/B]

It was this that I was really looking for. But you got is so thanks.

 

[mightysatchmo]

accidentally shooting 600 mg of deca instead of your planned 300 is not your problem .. your whole cycle as a 'first time' cycle is your problem , with those 3 compounds your going to have a hard time learning how to control your bodies aromatization .

Couldnt agree more with Roush^^^^^ Dbol are like estrogen bombs and on first cycle your estrogen will be all over the place. Have to high dose AI while on dbol and lower when come off but time it correctly

 

[famousjoel18]

if I need to I will add 4-6 weeks for deca. I was understanding that jump starting the cycle with dbol would be ok to run deca for 10 wks.

I have nolvadex on hand as a serm, no clomid. Would clomid be better?

I'm only on week one so I can change pct if needed.

 

[Roush]

if I need to I will add 4-6 weeks for deca. I was understanding that jump starting the cycle with dbol would be ok to run deca for 10 wks. .

there is ZERO correlation between Dbol and deca. jump starting with Dbol will NOT effect the accumulation of nandrolone (deca) in the blood stream over time . Dbol has a half life of like 8 hours, its in and then out of your system fast . Deca can last upwards of 28 days, with a very slow half life. again, adding Dbol does nothing to 'quicken' the effects of deca. only NPP can do that.

 

[famousjoel18]

Okay, I'll add a few more weeks for deca.

Are the doses i'm taking fine?

I have done lots of research but everyone has different opinions which is why I enjoy hearing all feedback. Thanks,

 

[tbonexl]

Remember to stay on test atleast 2 weeks longer then deca. Reason being so that when you start pct, you don't have elevated levels of deca in your blood which will hamper pct...

 

[Megatron28]

Okay, I'll add a few more weeks for deca.

Are the doses i'm taking fine?

I have done lots of research but everyone has different opinions which is why I enjoy hearing all feedback. Thanks,

I gave you a lot of feedback in Post #5 that you never responded to.

 

[famousjoel18]

@megatron28, thought I answered em in #11 but...

Ok, no hcg. I read several threads including the one at the bottom of your post/signature.
I'll probably start the hcg at week 10 since I will be running a 16 week cycle.

I can run deca for 14 weeks...? if you believe 10 is too short. Not a problem, as long as the 300mg a wk is good?
I don't have an AI on hand I have a serm, Nolvadex.
I wasn't planning on using clomid, just Nolvadex. However, I'm willing to change my PCT if you have something better to recommend?

I hadn't planned on blood work until I read the thread about it. It's too late to get the before but I will try and get one this week since its only week 1. Than at mid point and end.

I've done a lot of research on the stack i'm on, its the pct that I have trouble unestanding or putting together I should say. I did get this cycle off a, what I thought was, reliable site but I may just be a little out dated. So I'm always reading and willing to learn, gotta start somewhere. So all help is appreciated.



Blood work plans?

 

[tbonexl]

You shouldn't be on this cycle without adex. From what your posting, your cruising for a bruising. I would stop this cycle since your only in week one and plan ahead a lot better then you did for this one...

 

[Megatron28]

@megatron28, thought I answered em in #11 but...

Ok, no hcg. I read several threads including the one at the bottom of your post/signature.
I'll probably start the hcg at week 10 since I will be running a 16 week cycle.

I can run deca for 14 weeks...? if you believe 10 is too short. Not a problem, as long as the 300mg a wk is good?
I don't have an AI on hand I have a serm, Nolvadex.
I wasn't planning on using clomid, just Nolvadex. However, I'm willing to change my PCT if you have something better to recommend?

I hadn't planned on blood work until I read the thread about it. It's too late to get the before but I will try and get one this week since its only week 1. Than at mid point and end.

I've done a lot of research on the stack i'm on, its the pct that I have trouble unestanding or putting together I should say. I did get this cycle off a, what I thought was, reliable site but I may just be a little out dated. So I'm always reading and willing to learn, gotta start somewhere. So all help is appreciated.



Blood work plans?

Start hCG in week 1, not week 10

You forgot to respond to the Dopamine Agonist (DA) question.

300mg/wk of Deca is slightly more than a "therapeutic dose". If you are just doing it for joint pain relief that is good. If you seek the Anabolic effects I would go with 600mg/wk.

No Aromatase Inhibitor while running aromatizable compounds is a pretty dumb idea. And having a SERM is not a substitute for an AI while on cycle.

PCT really should be clomid and nolva together if you want to give yourself the best chance of recovering after your cycle. You you can do a lessor PCT if you choose. It will just likely take you longer to recover so morof your gains will be lost post-cycle. And your TT may not come back fully. Again, the clomid + nolva is optional, but it is the last place I would skimp to save a few bucks.

Not much point in getting blood work at week 1. Thanks ship has sailed. Wait for mid-cycle blood work.

 

[famousjoel18]

I'm at week 3 now, so I'm not dropping the cycle. I would really appreciate it if I can get some feedback on what might help correct the path I'm on.
so for starters:

1. up Deca to 600mg a week?
2. If I do up Deca would I need to increase my Test E or is 500mg a wk still good for test?
3. I have hcg on hand and your saying to start taking it now? I haven't felt any sides, at least that I'm aware of. But I will start it now if you believe its best. How many UI and how often would you recommend? 275iu 3 times a wk? that's 5000 iu in a month. I read that's good?
4. I have not felt any aromatization or sides but I will pick up some ai's if you suggest...?
5. I was thinking of upping my dose of dbol from 20mg a day to 40mgs a day.... any thoughts?
6. No plans for DA...

just to add my libido is not down, in fact I feel more active than ever and have no problem bustin a nut haha. everything feels great. my girl is the one complaining from how active I am now lol. also, remember everybody reacts differently to what they take. I may never feel a side and some people may feel them on first cycle. but as always I really appreciate all the help guys. thanks!

 

[Milton]

I'm at week 3 now, so I'm not dropping the cycle. I would really appreciate it if I can get some feedback on what might help correct the path I'm on.
so for starters:

1. up Deca to 600mg a week?
2. If I do up Deca would I need to increase my Test E or is 500mg a wk still good for test?
3. I have hcg on hand and your saying to start taking it now? I haven't felt any sides, at least that I'm aware of. But I will start it now if you believe its best. How many UI and how often would you recommend? 275iu 3 times a wk? that's 5000 iu in a month. I read that's good?
4. I have not felt any aromatization or sides but I will pick up some ai's if you suggest...?
5. I was thinking of upping my dose of dbol from 20mg a day to 40mgs a day.... any thoughts?
6. No plans for DA...

just to add my libido is not down, in fact I feel more active than ever and have no problem bustin a nut haha. everything feels great. my girl is the one complaining from how active I am now lol. also, remember everybody reacts differently to what they take. I may never feel a side and some people may feel them on first cycle. but as always I really appreciate all the help guys. thanks!

Thanks for the info.