training more important than diet

Op, seems like your dead set in what you want to believe is right, im sorry i see no point in asking a question if your not up to listening and learning

yes there are some folks out there that are blessed with super high metabolisms and can eat anything and everything in site, good for them
u cannot use other ppl as an example in this scenario due to every body being diff, its not like comparing a Carola to another Carola
what ive learned over the course of me getting in shape, its not the quantity, but the quality of calories
now eating garbage every now and then is not going to hurt you, no, as a matter of fact its actually good for your body to shock it once in a while juss to keep your metabolism up.
now I wouldnt call eating clean being "anal" as u put it.
if you want to stuff your face with processed foods adn unhealthy fats, go right ahead, but dont patronize those who take this shit serious , down to the last calorie, i dont know how old you are, but as you get older your systems start to slow down as well, so its either not be "anal" and get fat or eat healthy and stay young .:chainsaw:
 
Op, seems like your dead set in what you want to believe is right, im sorry i see no point in asking a question if your not up to listening and learning

yes there are some folks out there that are blessed with super high metabolisms and can eat anything and everything in site, good for them
u cannot use other ppl as an example in this scenario due to every body being diff, its not like comparing a Carola to another Carola
what ive learned over the course of me getting in shape, its not the quantity, but the quality of calories
now eating garbage every now and then is not going to hurt you, no, as a matter of fact its actually good for your body to shock it once in a while juss to keep your metabolism up.
now I wouldnt call eating clean being "anal" as u put it.
if you want to stuff your face with processed foods adn unhealthy fats, go right ahead, but dont patronize those who take this shit serious , down to the last calorie, i dont know how old you are, but as you get older your systems start to slow down as well, so its either not be "anal" and get fat or eat healthy and stay young .:chainsaw:
Lol I feel you man. I'm not saying to go ahead and just eat shit all day, rather you can sprinkle some shit in and be fine.
 
Op, seems like your dead set in what you want to believe is right, im sorry i see no point in asking a question if your not up to listening and learning

yes there are some folks out there that are blessed with super high metabolisms and can eat anything and everything in site, good for them
u cannot use other ppl as an example in this scenario due to every body being diff, its not like comparing a Carola to another Carola
what ive learned over the course of me getting in shape, its not the quantity, but the quality of calories
now eating garbage every now and then is not going to hurt you, no, as a matter of fact its actually good for your body to shock it once in a while juss to keep your metabolism up.
now I wouldnt call eating clean being "anal" as u put it.
if you want to stuff your face with processed foods adn unhealthy fats, go right ahead, but dont patronize those who take this shit serious , down to the last calorie, i dont know how old you are, but as you get older your systems start to slow down as well, so its either not be "anal" and get fat or eat healthy and stay young .:chainsaw:

Actually it is all the quantity, not the quality that got you, or other in shape.

Look folks, you cannot trick nature. 280 calories is 280 calories whether it's a snickers or 1.4 cups of brown rice. I will be the first to state that eating non-processed food is the right choice for health reasons, but to say you cannot lose weight on processed "junk" food? That's so wrong, so very very wrong.

A calorie is LITERALLY a calorie. Whether you like it or not.

And it's not like people eat a diet entirely comprised of a 280 calorie snickers bar. Lets be real here, most of us eat 3, 4, 5 grand in one day, so if I want 280, 500, shit a thousand of my 5K in somewhat processed food, the world will go on. In fact I got the leanest in my life eating pop tarts and snickers, as well as ice cream on the regular. And I'm no 18 yr old metabolic wonder. I did it caffeine free, drug free and 31 years old.

Sorry for the rant, but misinformation like this needs to be squashed for good.
 
Actually it is all the quantity, not the quality that got you, or other in shape.

Look folks, you cannot trick nature. 280 calories is 280 calories whether it's a snickers or 1.4 cups of brown rice. I will be the first to state that eating non-processed food is the right choice for health reasons, but to say you cannot lose weight on processed "junk" food? That's so wrong, so very very wrong.

A calorie is LITERALLY a calorie. Whether you like it or not.

And it's not like people eat a diet entirely comprised of a 280 calorie snickers bar. Lets be real here, most of us eat 3, 4, 5 grand in one day, so if I want 280, 500, shit a thousand of my 5K in somewhat processed food, the world will go on. In fact I got the leanest in my life eating pop tarts and snickers, as well as ice cream on the regular. And I'm no 18 yr old metabolic wonder. I did it caffeine free, drug free and 31 years old.

Sorry for the rant, but misinformation like this needs to be squashed for good.
Thank you
 
Actually it is all the quantity, not the quality that got you, or other in shape.

Look folks, you cannot trick nature. 280 calories is 280 calories whether it's a snickers or 1.4 cups of brown rice. I will be the first to state that eating non-processed food is the right choice for health reasons, but to say you cannot lose weight on processed "junk" food? That's so wrong, so very very wrong.

A calorie is LITERALLY a calorie. Whether you like it or not.

And it's not like people eat a diet entirely comprised of a 280 calorie snickers bar. Lets be real here, most of us eat 3, 4, 5 grand in one day, so if I want 280, 500, shit a thousand of my 5K in somewhat processed food, the world will go on. In fact I got the leanest in my life eating pop tarts and snickers, as well as ice cream on the regular. And I'm no 18 yr old metabolic wonder. I did it caffeine free, drug free and 31 years old.

Sorry for the rant, but misinformation like this needs to be squashed for good.

there is validity to what your saying...

a calorie is a calorie.. but how that calorie effects your body is a whole nother story
 
a calorie is a calorie.. but how that calorie effects your body is a whole nother story

Very true, that is why we base diets around whole, nutritious, caloric dense foods and then tailor them to specific macronutrient targets we set forth. :)
 
Actually it is all the quantity, not the quality that got you, or other in shape.

Look folks, you cannot trick nature. 280 calories is 280 calories whether it's a snickers or 1.4 cups of brown rice. I will be the first to state that eating non-processed food is the right choice for health reasons, but to say you cannot lose weight on processed "junk" food? That's so wrong, so very very wrong.

A calorie is LITERALLY a calorie. Whether you like it or not.

And it's not like people eat a diet entirely comprised of a 280 calorie snickers bar. Lets be real here, most of us eat 3, 4, 5 grand in one day, so if I want 280, 500, shit a thousand of my 5K in somewhat processed food, the world will go on. In fact I got the leanest in my life eating pop tarts and snickers, as well as ice cream on the regular. And I'm no 18 yr old metabolic wonder. I did it caffeine free, drug free and 31 years old.

Sorry for the rant, but misinformation like this needs to be squashed for good.

riigghhtttt, so what your saying is every single bblder, fitness expert, nutritionists, and phd is wrong and your right?
PPl that make a living with their bodies, ppl that went to school for years are incorrect in the information they give about nutrition?
im juss sayin, I wish i could go on the snickers, poptarts and ice cream diet and lose weight, shiiitttt that's the diet that made me balloon to 388 lb s lmao but no one nor did I say u cant have taht stuff at all, NO ONE HERE IS SAYING THIS, of course u can have shitty food and still lose weight and get lean, the thing is to NOT make your diet consist of ENTIRELY shitty food, smh DOES ANYBODY READ AND COMPREHEND ANYMORE!?!?!!??!?!?!

BUT IM JUSS SAYIN. :iwdumbass
 
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This is y i dont eat crappy foods lol
as we all know today is thanksgiving,
the healthiest thing I ate today was the turkey,
since im on a pretty strict diet that i follow day in day out, i have now made myself sick :wallbash:

i have had broccoli rice n cheese, stuffing, mashed potato's, mac n cheese,rolls, pumpkin pie, mini pecan pies and brownies,
man if I dont feel lke shit lmao
blehhhhhh
lets see if I lose weight tomm!!!!! hahahahhaah :sulk:
 
riigghhtttt, so what your saying is every single bblder, fitness expert, nutritionists, and phd is wrong and your right?
PPl that make a living with their bodies, ppl that went to school for years are incorrect in the information they give about nutrition?
im juss sayin, I wish i could go on the snickers, poptarts and ice cream diet and lose weight, shiiitttt that's the diet that made me balloon to 388 lb s lmao but no one nor did I say u cant have taht stuff at all, NO ONE HERE IS SAYING THIS, of course u can have shitty food and still lose weight and get lean, the thing is to NOT make your diet consist of ENTIRELY shitty food, smh DOES ANYBODY READ AND COMPREHEND ANYMORE!?!?!!??!?!?!

BUT IM JUSS SAYIN. :iwdumbass

Right because you hit 388 only because of the food choices you made.

YOU HIT 388 BECAUSE YOU ATE MORE CALORIES THAN YOU BURNED.

This is so simple it's painful. Read a nutrition book for crying out loud.

Btw post cited studies on all these "experts" that say calories don't matter and only food choices do.

Crickets.....
 
what ive learned over the course of me getting in shape, its not the quantity, but the quality of calories

No, just no.

Look folks, you cannot trick nature.
A calorie is LITERALLY a calorie. Whether you like it or not.

Re-Read that. ^^^


Further information
The large calorie, kilogram calorie, dietary calorie or food calorie approximates the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1 °C.

^This is the same whether you eat 1 Kcal of rice or 1 Kcal of a brownie. Again, you CANNOT change nature. Human evolution over millions of years trumps your bullshit broscience. Some of us can control eating junk once in a while, if you cannot, and got fat, don't blame a few unhealthy foods. It's not their fault you overate them.
 
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No, just no.



Re-Read that. ^^^


Further information
The large calorie, kilogram calorie, dietary calorie or food calorie approximates the energy needed to increase the temperature of 1 kilogram of water by 1 °C.

^This is the same whether you eat 1 Kcal of rice or 1 Kcal of a brownie. Again, you CANNOT change nature. Human evolution over millions of years trumps your bullshit broscience. Some of us can control eating junk once in a while, if you cannot, and got fat, don't blame a few unhealthy foods. It's not their fault you overate them.
your absolutely right a calorie is a calorie, no one is arguing:wallbash: that

lets put it this way
i can eat 4 egg whites, 2 full eggs
2 whole wheat English muffins
bout 1/4 cup shredded cheese
and a cup of oj and get roughly 700 cal
thats a meal that will satisfy my appetite enough to get me to my next snack
2 snickers will only tickle my belly which would be about that many calories ] and wtf "broscience" are you talking about??? this shit i speak is shit that ive read, or learned from doctors and body builders, lol and as far as evoulution, WTF does that gotta do with diet??? i mean if u wanna go there i dont member food evolving i dont member grains evolving into flour and that evolving into cake, I dont recall milk evolving into ice cream, lol BRO
and you are right i did get to 388 by eating more cal than I burned , and guess what those calories consisted of???? OMFG SUGARS AND PROCESSED FOODS
wow what a frikkin coinkeedink, and by the way no one blamed the food i got that fat, i blame myself, but I CHOOSE not to eat taht shit on a regular basis, are you gonna rant to me about that also?? lol
I do not know a single person that can eat nothing but garbage to the pooint to satisfy their appetite, and maintain a lean figure im sorry
its juss not feasible unless that person starves themselves which in turn would cause other health issues.
man bro are you that hard headed and hell bent on being right????
not one person postin here is arguing the science behind gaining / losing weight its abc/123
geez B IG ASS CRICKETS CHIRPING
N LIKE I SAID :iwdumbass
 
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and another thing if eating garbage werked for you thats awesome :Party: more power to ya

I lost the weight by eating healthy and excising, thats what worked for me. :gives:
lol :biggthump
 
I do agree with this statement because diet comes after training.First you have to work hard and engage your self with work outs on constant basis later the diet comes.So its really obvious thought.
 
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