Tren and TRT Bloodwork Timing

[DinoTexas]

Age:42
Ht: 5'11"
Wt: 185lbs @10%BF
6th Cycle
TRT for three years @200 Test Cyp pw
Donate every 8wks
Blood work every 6 months by trt doc (and on my own during cycle)

I have always timed my cycles such that I have a good two months between a cycle and any blood work from my TRT doc to ensure all of my values return to normal ranges. I have let a blast of deca run closer which I knew wouldn't impact the test my doc gives. I'm abut to run an 8-10 wk Tren Ace blast that may put me within 3-4 weeks of my next doctors blood work requirement. Does tren elevate test or free test levels the way test does or does it act more like deca given that it's a 19nor. I ask because I do believe it to be a slightly altered derivative of test. Thx in advance

 

[Megatron28]

It is a 19-nor.

 

[DinoTexas]

I knew it was a 19nor just wasn't sure if that impacted test or free test in any way. So no effect on test levels then...thx Mega

 

[Megatron28]

I knew it was a 19nor just wasn't sure if that impacted test or free test in any way. So no effect on test levels then...thx Mega

Right. 19-nors are not test.

Deca can cause a false positive as test on certain blood tests though. And Tren can cause a false positive as estradiol on certain blood tests. So you have to be careful of that when submitting to your doc's blood work request.

And they absolutely impact Free Test. They conpete to be bound to your SHBG thus more Test is freed up all things being equal.

 

[DinoTexas]

Thx Mega!! Let me ask it a different way...if it were you on a cycle of Tren, at what point would you time the cessation of the cycle to ensure your test or free test levels didn't set off any alarms?

 

[Megatron28]

Tren A? First time I would probably give myself a month. Then you have some cushion to see how you respond. That's assuming a dose like 50mg ED.

If he looks at your lipids, CBC or Meta-bolic Profile or other things you may want to track these as you are blasting to make sure they don't get too far out of whack.

Make sure you have a DA or use a DA.

 

[DinoTexas]

Perfect, thx Mega. I have a DA on hand and of course arimadex to keep estradiol in check - but I'm just running my TRT dose of test with the Tren - but will get bloods in a few weeks to ensure all is in shape

 

[DinoTexas]

Sorry I didn't answer your question. Yes, first time with tren ace...nervous and excited at the same time - but have everything I need on hand in the event of a problem

8-10 Weeks depending on how I feel
200pw Test Cyp - TRT
75 EOD Tren Ace - weeks 1-2
100 EOD Tren Ace - weeks 3-10 if sides feel manageable
Prami - Week 2-10 .25mg in week 2 and bump to twice weekly if needed
Bloods will be done in week 3 and week 12
Arimadex .25 three times a week
NAC - 2400 ED
Armour thyroid daily

If you see any holes, please let me know, I don't want to miss anything

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Sorry I didn't answer your question. Yes, first time with tren ace...nervous and excited at the same time - but have everything I need on hand in the event of a problem

8-10 Weeks depending on how I feel
200pw Test Cyp - TRT
75 EOD Tren Ace - weeks 1-2
100 EOD Tren Ace - weeks 3-10 if sides feel manageable
Prami - Week 2-10 .25mg in week 2 and bump to twice weekly if needed
Bloods will be done in week 3 and week 12
Arimadex .25 three times a week
NAC - 2400 ED
Armour thyroid daily

If you see any holes, please let me know, I don't want to miss anything

Do you really need that much adex just for your TRT?

Other than that I'd probably not run the prami unless you need to.

 

[cybrsage]

Just to complete the question...if Tren-A needs a month to clear out fully, how long does Tren-E need to clear out fully?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Just to complete the question...if Tren-A needs a month to clear out fully, how long does Tren-E need to clear out fully?

Mega is just playing on the safe side waiting a month for Ace (a very smart idea if you are on prescribed TRT and don't want to lose it! )

I'd go 6 weeks for enth... 8 weeks to be 100% sure. Realistically you could get away with 2 weeks for ace and 4 for enth pretty easily, but why risk it?

Hope this helps.

Also, as Mega alluded to the dose will also effect clearance times.. larger amounts will take a fair bit longer obviously.

 

[DinoTexas]

PrinceDianabol; no, I don't need that much ADEX for TRT, I take .25 twice a week for TRT but thought I might bump it up a bit with the Tren. Perhaps a better plan is to keep it the same for three weeks until I do my blood work and adjust if necessary? And thank you all for the help!

 

[Megatron28]

Just to complete the question...if Tren-A needs a month to clear out fully, how long does Tren-E need to clear out fully?

I am not suggesting a month for tren A clearance times. I am suggesting a month so blood work can get back to normal just in case the tren causes issues with lipids or other things. These don't bounce back as soon as the Tren clears. Since it is first time with Tren I think it makes sense to leave extra time.

 

[Teutonic]

All of you need to read stroid half lives, steroid detection time s and as Mega said...AAS especially 19 nor s are make your lipid s go askew, your estroidial to be fucked...

Read gentlemen read. Educate yourself as much as you can and then what you do not get will help u to ask specific, concise questions. OP, that s not a slam just the way it is...

I been looking like this for 30 years and while nothing special I do pussy cycles like TRT then something like prop/tren 1/2 cc of each 3 days a week.....it s food and rest as you know.....

 

[DinoTexas]

Teutonic; no offense taken. But in my defense I've read mountains of information on this subject. And I don't take any cycle lightly. Having read through the various half lives, I can tell you from personal experience, that this data doesn't correlate directly to skewed blood results from my TRT Doctor. I once came in high on test levels a full 5 1/2 weeks after a test E blast and got a verbal warning from my doctor. I would say that user experience is an equally important datapoint on this subject. That is why I asked, not because I don't educate myself. And thx for the help, it is appreciated

 

[cybrsage]

I am not suggesting a month for tren A clearance times. I am suggesting a month so blood work can get back to normal just in case the tren causes issues with lipids or other things. These don't bounce back as soon as the Tren clears. Since it is first time with Tren I think it makes sense to leave extra time.

Yeah, that is what I tried to say but failed - fully cleared as in everything is back to normal for a blood test so a TRT doctor will not raise an eyebrow and become cross.

Thanks!

 

[cybrsage]

Mega is just playing on the safe side waiting a month for Ace (a very smart idea if you are on prescribed TRT and don't want to lose it! )

I'd go 6 weeks for enth... 8 weeks to be 100% sure. Realistically you could get away with 2 weeks for ace and 4 for enth pretty easily, but why risk it?

Hope this helps.

Also, as Mega alluded to the dose will also effect clearance times.. larger amounts will take a fair bit longer obviously.

Thanks, it does!

 

[Teutonic]

no offense taken my friend and u are 100 percent correct; we all are differant and our levels genetically " set" then adjusted up down by diet activities gear bad habits....

All good

 

[PrinceDianabol]

PrinceDianabol; no, I don't need that much ADEX for TRT, I take .25 twice a week for TRT but thought I might bump it up a bit with the Tren. Perhaps a better plan is to keep it the same for three weeks until I do my blood work and adjust if necessary? And thank you all for the help!

That's what I suspected. Tren doesn't aromatize so you don't need to up the adex man - your just going to crush e2 now. Provided your e2 is dialed in you should leave the dex right where it is. The only time you'd need to up it is if you're adding aromatizing steroids to your cycle. If you know you're dialed in on that dose then don't adjust.

 

[3J]

yup.. no need to up adex.. if anything you might need a dop ag. to keep prog in check