Tren E + Deca, good mix or pointless?

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Nerotik

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I have had several people tell me opposing views on running Tren E with Deca and I am wondering what you all think. Is it safe/worth it to run them at the same time or is it pointless and should I just stick with Tren E alone?
 
First time running Tren? If so, don't go with enanthate, rather go with acetate. Reason being is if you run into sides, which on Tren is high likely, and you want to stop then atleast the short ester is out of your system faster than what the long ester will be. Apart from that, Tren is Tren.

Most people rec. not to run Deca and Tren due to them both being 19-Nors so the likelihood is increased in running into Progesterone/Prolactin sides ... Whether there is any truth to that, I don't know but I'm sure it could be controlled with Prami or Caber if it happened.

A lot of people say Deca being a very wet steroid in that it holds water and makes you bloat and is good for all out mass, whereas Tren is good for lean, dry, solid mass the counter each other... Sure Deca probably wouldn't be apart of my stack whilst trying to cut because of that, but if your on a bulk I see no reason why you can't run either. Providing you keep e2 and prolactin in check as well as sodium intake, you shouldn't really bloat up like most people assume.
 
Thanks for the info, very enlightening. Yes I already ran a cycle with both Tren E and Deca with zero sides. My body can handle them both with no issues at all. My main concern is keeping my cycle cost to a minimum. I start with Tren 100mg, Deca 100-200 mg and Test Cyp 100-200mg injected 2x a week. All are injected the same day 2x a week for the full 12-16 weeks or so, Dbol for the first 6-8 weeks, Proviron 2x a day for a few weeks in the beginning and I am gonna add Clen to help with some stubborn belly fat. Anything I should change? Maybe keep the Proviron for the full cycle and the Clen after cycle? Thoughts? Recommendations?
Thanks again for the help and info.
 
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Nerotik said:
Thanks for the info, very enlightening. Yes I already ran a cycle with both Tren E and Deca with zero sides. My body can handle them both with no issues at all. My main concern is keeping my cycle cost to a minimum. I start with Tren 100mg, Deca 100-200 mg and Test Cyp 100-200mg injected 2x a week. All are injected the same day 2x a week for the full 12-16 weeks or so, Dbol for the first 6-8 weeks, Proviron 2x a day for a few weeks in the beginning and I am gonna add Clen to help with some stubborn belly fat. Anything I should change? Maybe keep the Proviron for the full cycle and the Clen after cycle? Thoughts? Recommendations?
Thanks again for the help and info.
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Wow...
 
Are you saying those are your dosages? Because if you are you have no sides because you're running no gear!

Listen you understand that when you introduce exogenious test to your body you shut down you natural right? With that little of test you are possibly less in the test department than you were naturally.

Second I run tren e and deca d together all the time. Prolactin is bull shit as far as I'm concerned. I don't know anyone that has issues with it. I run adex and do just fine. You need an AI not a serm.

Also cycle costs minimum wtf? If you run 16 weeks with that cycle minus the shit d-Bol and even crappier proviron you just saved some money. That cycle should cost ya around 600 bucks. Over 4 months that's less than 150 bucks a month. You can't be cheap on this stuff dude. You're doing more harm to your body putting little amounts of androgens in you to mess with your HTPA.

Just my 2 cents run 500 500 500
 
Either way doses are still too low. Deca min 500 testin 500 tren min 500

I just re read his post and I don't think he means those doses I think he means like 200 200 200
 
Yeah agreed, on the deca dose being too low...

In regards to mixing Tren+Deca, a lot of what you will read and hear from people is utter bullshit/myths. A lot of people fall backwards when they hear I am running 250mg Test and 400mg Deca... Sure I have a minor case of deca dick, but .125mg Prami sorted that out good and propper. Sides are next to none except for a fuller look. I have run Test at 600mg previously for a bit and to be honest 600mg Test made me feel a lot more aggressive and sense of well-being was stronger which I can only put down to Test being more androgenic than Deca.

Conclusion? Providing you have a test base, it doesn't matter what you mix really... Mast+Deca, Anadrol+Tren, Winny+Deca, whatever floats your boat.
 
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Truushot said:
Either way doses are still too low. Deca min 500 testin 500 tren min 500

I just re read his post and I don't think he means those doses I think he means like 200 200 200
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So ur basically saying that running tren [a] at 350 mg a week is useless?
I've done cycle with 350 tren/mast/test with awesome results...
 
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Well the deca at 200mg is certainly too low IMO. The test at 200, nothing wrong with a test base, I'm running 250mg Test/400mg Deca myself.

200mg Tren though is actually something I would consider running. It's quite a strong steroid.
 
I am wondering what awesome results are. If you are saying awesome results at and gained 8 lbs to get to 200 pounds then I guess results are relative. If you are going to use androgens to make yourself bigger and stronger then get big and get strong.

I giess if you want to use them to have abs and compete in physique that is a different goal. I look at juice as something to make me over the top. A monster who is strong big lean and vascular.

I don't see an issue with TA at 350 per week btw. I do with test and I do with deca for sure.
 
I would be willing to bet that his test isn't even much higher at 200 mg per week. His natty shits down and it's basically like he is on TRT. I'm just hypothesizing here but it's a decent theory.
 
^^^^ Agreed, nothing wrong with a cruise dose of test but 200/200/200 is pointless. It's a cruise on 3 compounds. Tren 400 Deca 400-500
 
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I am wondering what awesome results are. If you are saying awesome results at and gained 8 lbs to get to 200 pounds then I guess results are relative. If you are going to use androgens to make yourself bigger and stronger then get big and get strong.

I giess if you want to use them to have abs and compete in physique that is a different goal. I look at juice as something to make me over the top. A monster who is strong big lean and vascular.

I don't see an issue with TA at 350 per week btw. I do with test and I do with deca for sure.
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Ok, I see what ur saying we got different goals..

by awesome resluts I ment before Cycle I was 94 KG not sure BF, after that Iam about 86 kg 11%BF, and actually have more lean mass on me... Going to do the same cycle again to get to that 8%... Pretty much only reason I use gear is to hold on the whole lean mass while cutting of the fat..
 
Hmm I see your goals are a little different than mine and that's cool I get it. The lower doses you are doing on the tren and test would help you achieve what you are doing.

Typically though most people use juice a little bit difference. How tall are you? 86 kilos? 190 lbs? Do you do physique?
 
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Hmm I see your goals are a little different than mine and that's cool I get it. The lower doses you are doing on the tren and test would help you achieve what you are doing.

Typically though most people use juice a little bit difference. How tall are you? 86 kilos? 190 lbs? Do you do physique?
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Iam 180 cm tall... Well my next cutting cycle starts next week , so when I get my BF to that 8% or lower, I may consider to... But currently just doing it for my self...
 
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I personally think you would benefit much better running, for your cut, 200mg Test + 200mg Tren only better yet swap out the 200mg Deca (which is really only going to add a little water and lube your joints at that dose more than anything) for another 200mg Tren getting you too 200mg Test/400mg Tren.

At the end of the day you can cut or bulk or whatever steroid you choose...
 
I am on TRT my natural production is almost zero, my weekly totals are 400 test c, 400 tren e and 400 deca. I already have the dbol I bought a while ago so I might as well use it to kick off my cycle. Same with the proviron I bought them both some months ago but haven't used them yet. I don't have any sides at all, no deca dick etc. So I think for my next bulking cycle I will run 400 test, 400 tren weekly and use up the dbol for the first 6 weeks or so. Not sure if I should even bother with the proviron or not. After my cycle I will cruise with 250 test a week. I am 6 foot and 220 right now, I need to get rid of my spare tire, it's the only fat deposit I have really, I just need to find a good hardcore ab workout to build my abs out far enough to expand the loose skin.
 
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