Tren E over Ace, if the sides get bad--how much longer will E take to clear?

[kilsong]

I understand that if the sides get bad with Tren Ace--that once you stop, the sides go awake pretty fast--like in a couple of days.
With E--it would be longer.
How much longer?
Is that the only real advantage to Ace?
Does E 'kick in' in ABOUT the same amount of time?
Is E as effective as Ace?
I'm trying to avoid every other day injections.
I'm kinda okay with 2 a week for E....but EOD might be a deal breaker.
Might.

 

[kilsong]

Anybody?
Maybe I'm not phrasing this question the right way.

 

[halfwit]

I understand that if the sides get bad with Tren Ace--that once you stop, the sides go awake pretty fast--like in a couple of days.
With E--it would be longer.
How much longer?
Is that the only real advantage to Ace?
Does E 'kick in' in ABOUT the same amount of time?
Is E as effective as Ace?
I'm trying to avoid every other day injections.
I'm kinda okay with 2 a week for E....but EOD might be a deal breaker.
Might.

Damn 'ology, I can't stop posting instead of reading my thermodynamics book for class tomorrow!

Everyone metabolizes the compound differently, but it's a safe bet that sides would last anywhere from 2-4 weeks with the enanthate ester. Yes, acetate pretty much has the advantage of being in and out quickly. It's also going to be slightly more potent mg per mg as the acetate ester weighs significantly less than the enanthate ester. Some folks claim they get the tren cough less on acetate, but I have yet to see a difference honestly. Enanthate (regardless of which hormone it's attached to) will typically have a ramp-up time of 3-5 weeks depending on how fast you can cleave and metabolize the drug. You do see serum levels rise immediately with either ester, but acetate is much faster to reach desired serum concentrations.

I still think you're jumping into tren WAY too early, but you're a grown man so I'll just tell you that you can get by with M-W-F injects if EOD is too much for you. I've yet to see any negative sides from the small trough created by not following a strict EOD regimen.

My .02c

 

[kilsong]

Thanks again Half..
So M-W-F is doable?
Ok---All the reading I've done...I've yet to see that one. But I did think it.

Is 50-75mg of Ace M-W-F is enough? Again---looking for the absolute lowest amount.
Obviously with 100mg of Cyp pharm grade twice a week also.

 

[Cheph]

Thanks again Half..
So M-W-F is doable?
Ok---All the reading I've done...I've yet to see that one. But I did think it.

Is 50-75mg of Ace M-W-F is enough? Again---looking for the absolute lowest amount.
Obviously with 100mg of Cyp pharm grade twice a week also.

More than enough. I ran up to 100mg ed but you just get more
Sides vs gains. 50ed or 100eod is max I would go with ace

 

[prisonsex]

If your going to do it; why not do it right and run Ace....and pin ED

 

[smittiot]

If your going to do it; why not do it right and run Ace....and pin ED

50mg (350mg week)? Can tren a be injected with slin pin?

 

[skinnypete]

yea ...you might want to back load the slin pin, because it might be tough drawing the oil

 

[smittiot]

yea ...you might want to back load the slin pin, because it might be tough drawing the oil

That seems like more hassle than just rolling with dailypins using 25ga.
Thinking this cycle for my 3rd, but will post another thread when time.

 

[Epic Ed]

If your going to do it; why not do it right and run Ace....and pin ED

That's really not the right way to look at it. There's no black & white qualification you can give to running E versus A. Both have pros and cons, and tren E has just as many advantages over tren A as it has disadvantages. I ran tren E specifically because I anticipated I was less likely to experience bad sides on the E ester versus the A ester. Turned out to be a good choice -- I really had no severe sides. I'm going to run tren A in the future just to compare one experience versus the other but don't discount running the longer ester just because, well...it's a longer ester. MG for MG it's also more cost effective.

 

[halfwit]

More than enough. I ran up to 100mg ed but you just get more
Sides vs gains. 50ed or 100eod is max I would go with ace

This. ^^^^ 750mg/wk is a pretty hefty tren dose.

I wouldn't go any less than 300mg/wk personally, but you could probably go as low as 200mg/wk and still see some benefit Kilsong.

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

I go with e because you inject less often and tend to gets lot less sides on it. For me I get no sides on tren e as opposed to ace and still get pretty much the same results.. I would say you're nowhere near ready for tren yet though.. Just my .02

 

[skinnypete]

^^^ not to be a douche but, its kind of a warning sign when he doesnt know ester length or halflife

 

[skinnypete]

so yea probably not ready for tren...even if most people who use aas tend to just jump into the shit with out knowning a DAMN thing about it

 

[gaintothemax]

It will take 3-4 weeks for the drug to kick in and 1-2 for sides to go away but to be safe a month is what you should expect.

 

[Krazydiamond]

I usually prefer longer esters for the simple reason that it fits my schedule/lifestyle better. Between work, gym, gf, friends, eating, food prep, and everything else that complicates my life it's just so much easier to fit in pinning 2x/week as compared to EOD shots. I've seen plenty of guys screw up their dream test prop/tren ace/mast cycles due to the fact that they didn't pin their short ester gear enough to keep blood levels stable. Throw in a nagging wife you have to hide gear from and kid responsibilities and well...you get the idea