Tren for BULK? Calories or test amount?

[gtower]

I want to optimize my current tren-a run for bulking.
245lbs, 6'2", 14%bf

I am taking 75mg tren-a ED, and 250mg Test-E once a week. On week two now.

Now, after reading about this, diet looks to be the most important thing to consider for this. Pile in the food for a bulk. 5000 Cal a day should do it I would think.

How about the test-e amount? I am wanting to avoid nasty sides, so I have gone with lower test than tren as many advise. On day 8 now, and no sides at all yet on 75mg ED of tren Glad about that. Maybe its to early to be seeing sides yet?

Any comments or suggestions on how to best BULK on tren-A?

 

[KingBF]

I tired to bulk on my high prop/low tren run 525wk-350wk and it was very difficult for me. tren suppressed my appitite really bad so I ended up just eating as much clean food as I could and let it drop my bf%. strength was through the roof though...

my next tren run im doing high tren low prop...let me know how it works for you

 

[gtower]

I have noticed some appetite reduction too. I am just trying to eat really clean and stuff it in even if I dont feel like it. Which is hard. Lots of Protein powder, lean meats etc.... Keep the intake up. I am hoping to find good results with this and bulk up some. A bit of lost fat would be fine too, but mostly working to up the lean body mass.
What do others find with TEST doses and tren-ace?

 

[Trevdog]

The "test lower than tren" rule is some arbitrary nonsense based on nothing. I've used a gram of test with 500 mgs. of tren, great cycle. I recommend you bump your test up to 500 mgs. per week and I expect you'll gain quite a bit more muscle.

 

[30yostarter]

I agree with TD above. The consensus on keeping Test higher then tren is sound.

Personally, I'd do 400 tren and 600 test! Throw in 5k cals, and you're gold!

 

[balboa270]

I don't like tren to bulk at all wrong stack for (BULK)

 

[theblitzkrieg]

I love bulking on tren. Makes it difficult to gain fat also. No watery fat bastard mode.

 

[damianschaab]

I used to run tren with everything, regardless of the desired results. For me it was either 133 mg per day or EOD depending on when I was stacking it with.