Tren sides --- ACE vs. E who is the victor?

[0tj0]

Oral tren is nothing like injectable when it comes to sides. The only reason you should run OT is if you are paid to and have bloods every week. The guys I know who used it have bloods every week and a doc to monitor. Jaundice would and could hit from one day to the next. Stick with injectable.

Repo dove right into that but with good results. I like to see guys try tren with test higher first but if you get sides then you get them, nothing will fix it.

Ya Ide say thats pretty high on my list of sides to avoid. Ill just take that off my list of things to do.

 

[mr.spoon]

i been on test e & tren e for 4 month now,first time on tren, at first the side was high blood p,i took magnesium for it(thanks user04) at first now i dont need it,i was 190 im now 240 a fukin bull and im lovin it,ppl that havent seen me in 4 month when they see me now are like wait minute wtf no fukin way!!!! lol tren was made by the gods son.

 

[DuRsT]

i been on test e & tren e for 4 month now,first time on tren, at first the side was high blood p,i took magnesium for it(thanks user04) at first now i dont need it,i was 190 im now 240 a fukin bull and im lovin it,ppl that havent seen me in 4 month when they see me now are like wait minute wtf no fukin way!!!! lol tren was made by the gods son.

Holy shit!!! Pics!

 

[branman2012]

i been on test e & tren e for 4 month now,first time on tren, at first the side was high blood p,i took magnesium for it(thanks user04) at first now i dont need it,i was 190 im now 240 a fukin bull and im lovin it,ppl that havent seen me in 4 month when they see me now are like wait minute wtf no fukin way!!!! lol tren was made by the gods son.

GIGGIDY.. wow spoon, you serious turned me on to tren even more now .. Start a thread with some Pics!!! and whats ur doses ? and Any problems with 4 months ?? Im running 8 weeks tren.. you make me want to run it longer..

 

[ChrisWho?]

Like User stated, oral tren is some serious shit I wouldn't even touch. I've ran only tren ace as I like short esters over long but my sides aren't bad at all. I'm running close to 100mg everyday. It's stuff I brewed myself so i'd put it at about 90mg honestly. I sleep great, but I work full time and hit the gym among other things so i'm done by 9pm.

I will never take that shit in the summer as I sweat non stop all day even in the winter. I about died at my families for thanksgiving burning up in the house, I had to open a window and hang by that all night. Nights sweats a couple nights a week, my blood pressure got real high and it killed my appetite.

The gains are like no other and is truely an amazing compound. You can eat maintenance cals and still build serious muscle. It is to be respected, and you can really hurt yourself due to the dramatic strength increases. I love ace, but i'll be glad when it's done.

 

[DuRsT]

GIGGIDY.. wow spoon, you serious turned me on to tren even more now .. Start a thread with some Pics!!! and whats ur doses ? and Any problems with 4 months ?? Im running 8 weeks tren.. you make me want to run it longer..

hell yeah I want to see a 4month/50 lb progress pic too!

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Many posts here and I did not read them all. Sorry if this has been said already. If your worried about sides I would say stick with Ace. Yes they will hit faster, but would you rather deal with bullshit for 3 days or 2 weeks? I just think if you need to abort Ace is the way to go, E your kinda stuck.

 

[b_saan]

Oral tren is nothing like injectable when it comes to sides. The only reason you should run OT is if you are paid to and have bloods every week. The guys I know who used it have bloods every week and a doc to monitor. Jaundice would and could hit from one day to the next. Stick with injectable.

Dont be so melodramatic, oral tren (methyltrienolone) isn't that scary. I've run it twice now about 4 weeks each time up to 750mcg (I tried 1mg a few days but felt too slugish at that dose) and it shreds you up with added strength like nothing else. Most people could probably get away with 500mcg just fine and yeah check your bloodwork but you should be doing that anyway right? My ast/alt values were never out of spec. Halo (fluoxymesterone) is much harder on my body than OT not to mention my temperment.

That said run some Tren Ace 1st and see how it goes, OT would be better for sometime in the future.

 

[Rastas]

I'm pretty sure no one's mentioned the cough yet! I got absolutely no sides (other than the wonderful ones) with TA, but thought I was going to die on one particular occasion. You can taste it in your mouth and the cough is painful!

 

[ChrisWho?]

Dont be so melodramatic, oral tren (methyltrienolone) isn't that scary. .

Oral tren is extremely liver toxic and most here wouldn't get periodic tests done.
I think you may be the first i've heard with perfect values on OT, especially at 750mcg.

 

[UserAt204]

Dont be so melodramatic, oral tren (methyltrienolone) isn't that scary. I've run it twice now about 4 weeks each time up to 750mcg (I tried 1mg a few days but felt too slugish at that dose) and it shreds you up with added strength like nothing else. Most people could probably get away with 500mcg just fine and yeah check your bloodwork but you should be doing that anyway right? My ast/alt values were never out of spec. Halo (fluoxymesterone) is much harder on my body than OT not to mention my temperment.

That said run some Tren Ace 1st and see how it goes, OT would be better for sometime in the future.

I woulnt call it dramatic at all. I'm talking about professional athletes with a doc testing weekly and more. I find it hard to believe that it didn't increase liver enzymes but if that's your experience then that's great if it was real. But the people I know, know what they are doing, and still became jaundice. Different people experience things in different ways but it is liver toxic and much more so than dbol/drol.

The thing to remember is this board is mainly comprised of new AAS users who have no business using OT.

But this is just my opinion based on others experience. I have no use for it personally.

 

[mr.spoon]

GIGGIDY.. wow spoon, you serious turned me on to tren even more now .. Start a thread with some Pics!!! and whats ur doses ? and Any problems with 4 months ?? Im running 8 weeks tren.. you make me want to run it longer..

i will put some pics up when i take some fresh ones,,the only sides i had was high blood p at first and some insomnia,but'if is ur first cycle dont do tren first shit is strong,but if u do use tren a first.

 

[mr.spoon]

hell yeah I want to see a 4month/50 lb progress pic too!

i know is hard to belive but ever since i started my cycle i been eatin alottttt better that had alot to do with the gain and im only 5'8,but tren had a lot to do with it too shit is serious business.

 

[MattPorter]

Tren acetate is the better choice. Like poster above mentioned if sides manifest, you can abort much faster, and with acetate things begin to take place VERY FAST -- results.

given the 2 set in front of you, you'd be wise to opt for the acetate and do not bitch about the frequency of shots....its worth it....

-Matt

 

[b_saan]

I woulnt call it dramatic at all. I'm talking about professional athletes with a doc testing weekly and more. I find it hard to believe that it didn't increase liver enzymes but if that's your experience then that's great if it was real. But the people I know, know what they are doing, and still became jaundice. Different people experience things in different ways but it is liver toxic and much more so than dbol/drol.

The thing to remember is this board is mainly comprised of new AAS users who have no business using OT.

But this is just my opinion based on others experience. I have no use for it personally.

For shits and giggles I double checked my labs from near the end of the last time I was using OT:

AST - 38 - 0-40 ref range
ALT - 66 - 0-55 ref range

So elevated but by no means extreme as my doc wasn't worried he just said to cut out any ibuprofen, etc that I may have been taking at the time, my next test a month later (same ranges):

AST - 32
ALT - 50

*note that my tests before and after show my normal range to be AST ~30/ALT upper 40s, additionally my Albumin/Bilirubin/Globulin A/G ratio were all dead centerish of the ref range both times and my urinalysis was all negative.

So in summation, some liver enzyme elevation, nothing permanent for me at least. YMMV.

I should probably add though that my triglycerides skyrocketed and my HDL crashed (LDL:HDL ratio was over 4.0) in the 1st test and had started coming back to normal for me (ratio back under 3) in the 2nd a month later, not liver related but my interesting none the less...