tren, test, drol. high dose bulk!!

Are you looking to add mass for bodybuilding, or strength/powerlifting purposes?

I'm not sure I would pick tren as my first choice for an auxiliary injectable here.

I would also rotate orals...drol yes, but don't forget superdrol and possibly halo.
 
Are you looking to add mass for bodybuilding, or strength/powerlifting purposes?

I'm not sure I would pick tren as my first choice for an auxiliary injectable here.
I would also rotate orals...drol yes, but don't forget superdrol and possibly halo.

this is deff a bulk cycle that using for bodybuilding mass. ive used deca before . actually my last cycle was test deca lol so if thats what your thinking im opting for the tren lol.

as for orals ive never tried superdrol or halo. what is your experienxe with them? (i have drol and dbol already so i figured id just use the drol. its obviously good at adding a gew lbs and i lkke tge water ewention for my joints.
 
My suggestion:
1-20 test 1.4g/wk
1-18 deca or primo or EQ 1g/wk (in order of preference for me, you don't have to use deca but it makes the most sense IMO)
1-6 drol 100mg/d
9-13 sdrol 30mg/d
16-20 dbol 100mg/d or halo 20-30mg/d
1-20 tne 100mg preWO
1-20 gh 5-10iu 5on/2off (nice if you can afford it but not necessary)

If you're working out 5 days/wk, the TNE plus cyp or enan will put you right around 2g test/wk.

Most important:
1-20 humalin-r 10iu subQ before breakfast
1-20 humalog 5iu pre/5iu IM postWO (only leg/back/chest days)

Run an AI for sure; if you're going with deca or tren I'd probably do 0.25mg prami ED as well.
 
hey guys ive had some experince with each of these compounds and ive run seceral cycles over the past couple yrs so im not a newbie lol. current stats:

5'11, 243lbs, bf% 13-15 by my estimate.
im off cycle now and plan on reducing BF and increasing my cardio to try and make up for the lack a breath on tren. im planning something like this

week 1-12 2g sust
week 1-4 100mg drol ED
week 5-12: 100mg tren ace ED

or staggering it an pyramiding up as gains slow... maybe something along these lines.

week 1-4 1gram sust
week 4-8 100mg drol ED
week 4-12 2gram sust
week 8-15 100 tren ace ED

what do you guys think? i know the doses are on the high end but ive been getting slow gains this past yr cycling with several compounds ag diff times. ive never un more than 1100 test with addition of ather compounds. but i do want to get to the pro levwl and
feel that i need something more advanced to get the type of growth im looking for. and yes i know how to diet lol. i try to get 5000 cals in a day

open to ideas and suggeastions.

tren and drol would make my head ache unbareably. that's a couple of harsh drugs.
 
Im running something kinda like this for Jr USAs next summer. Right now its 1200 test/1200 EQ. Gonna add in 150-200mg anadrol next month probably. Im about 240-245 at 12-13% right now (abs clearly visible and veins in lower abs).

About to add 5iu of gh ed to see where that gets me.

As far as the cycle goes, Im a fan of tapering up and/or constantly switching drugs
 
1. Watch your blood pressure constantly. You're pushing the range where even controlled E2 won't help prevent high bp.

2. You WILL need an AI. You're pushing 3g of gear in a week, combined with the fact that 750mg of that is a 19-nor; problems can come fast and hard. You ever see powerlifters with a constant red complexion? That's usually crazy high bp from a heavy cycle and 0 AI. (They use the water for additional strength)

3. I would watch the simple sugars while on tren and adrol. Spikes in glucose with those particular compounds will very likely give some nasty indigestion and heartburn.

4. Don't forget the liver support. That heavy of a cycle would be best served with both NAC and liv52. You'll feel much better too.

5. Pyramids belong in Egypt and stim cycles. Hormones have esters to provide this effect, and I have yet to see ANY benefit of doing it that way.

Just remember, not only do pros have crazy good genetics, but often access to a doctor. Those of us that do this on our own have to be extra vigilant in trying to do this safely and ensure that we see as few negative effects as possible.

My .02c :)

It's posts like this one right here, that have me coming back here looking for more. I just learned about 1 month's worth of knowledge here. Boom!!
 
My suggestion:
1-20 test 1.4g/wk
1-18 deca or primo or EQ 1g/wk (in order of preference for me, you don't have to use deca but it makes the most sense IMO)
1-6 drol 100mg/d
9-13 sdrol 30mg/d
16-20 dbol 100mg/d or halo 20-30mg/d
1-20 tne 100mg preWO
1-20 gh 5-10iu 5on/2off (nice if you can afford it but not necessary)

If you're working out 5 days/wk, the TNE plus cyp or enan will put you right around 2g test/wk.

Most important:
1-20 humalin-r 10iu subQ before breakfast
1-20 humalog 5iu pre/5iu IM postWO (only leg/back/chest days)

Run an AI for sure; if you're going with deca or tren I'd probably do 0.25mg prami ED as well.

Holy shit :bowdown:
 
My suggestion:
1-20 test 1.4g/wk
1-18 deca or primo or EQ 1g/wk (in order of preference for me, you don't have to use deca but it makes the most sense IMO)
1-6 drol 100mg/d
9-13 sdrol 30mg/d
16-20 dbol 100mg/d or halo 20-30mg/d
1-20 tne 100mg preWO
1-20 gh 5-10iu 5on/2off (nice if you can afford it but not necessary)

If you're working out 5 days/wk, the TNE plus cyp or enan will put you right around 2g test/wk.

Most important:
1-20 humalin-r 10iu subQ before breakfast
1-20 humalog 5iu pre/5iu IM postWO (only leg/back/chest days)

Run an AI for sure; if you're going with deca or tren I'd probably do 0.25mg prami ED as well.

i already have the tren so ill be running sust and trenn ace. but i really like your outline. i woulddnt be opposed ro running npp for a while before running the tren? maybe do 10 weeks of npp then do a bridge with an oral and sust. and finish the cycle with zhe zren??

also why add 0.25 mgs prami? what are the benifits?

this is a legit ass cycle! unfortunately i cant afford hgh right now but i am saving for it. i was
considering insulin but im kinda intimidated by it to be honeat. i just dont knkw enough about it yet. and if you fuck that up you could die. i really want to use it but feel that i need some mire research before implimenting it. my understanding is 10g carbs per iu. so 10iu you would eaat 100 carbs right after... correct me if im wrong. you said this is most important so id raelly like to hear some feed back on this subject.

and thats alot of orals back to back. i like to do 4weeks on 4 weeks off for orals. but im not opposed to staggering them as you listed.

thanks for all the feed back!! keep it comin! i live talkinv about this stiff
 
I did leave some room between the orals but you can easily adjust the lengths to be 4 on 4 off; I understand where you're coming from there.

Here's a cycle I'm contemplating this winter: http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/673725-planning-next-six-eight-months.html

You have the basic idea with slin; 10c / iu to begin with.

Most guys will be able to get away with less but it varies from person to person and you're right to be cautious, shit can kill you if you really fuck it up but it's not particularly hazardous if you stick to the 10c / iu rule.
 
hey guys ive had some experince with each of these compounds and ive run seceral cycles over the past couple yrs so im not a newbie lol. current stats:

5'11, 243lbs, bf% 13-15 by my estimate.
im off cycle now and plan on reducing BF and increasing my cardio to try and make up for the lack a breath on tren. im planning something like this

week 1-12 2g sust
week 1-4 100mg drol ED
week 5-12: 100mg tren ace ED

or staggering it an pyramiding up as gains slow... maybe something along these lines.

week 1-4 1gram sust
week 4-8 100mg drol ED
week 4-12 2gram sust
week 8-15 100 tren ace ED

what do you guys think? i know the doses are on the high end but ive been getting slow gains this past yr cycling with several compounds ag diff times. ive never un more than 1100 test with addition of ather compounds. but i do want to get to the pro levwl and
feel that i need something more advanced to get the type of growth im looking for. and yes i know how to diet lol. i try to get 5000 cals in a day

open to ideas and suggeastions.

brother, I'm a pretty good size guy, not trying to brag, but if you 243lbs at 5'11 and 13% bf you must be a good size? my 2cnts.
 
I would say def pick up some mr supps tuda for your liver its going to take a beating.drol is no joke its amazing stuff
 
brother, I'm a pretty good size guy, not trying to brag, but if you 243lbs at 5'11 and 13% bf you must be a good size? my 2cnts.

why thank you lol. i get that every now and then but i consider myself to be above avwrage no where near what i want as an end result. im hoping to be 300 in tge next 5-6 yrs.

and im dropping weight now that im off cycle. weighed in at 239 yesterday. im hoping to hold in to 235 before starting this next run. id like to end up a solid 260..
 
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