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wayne and zeus said:
Well, well well.....

A little dab el' do ya..

SuperGirl this is great news especially considering the source.

Is there a thread or post on the exact measurements of alcohol to be used, and PLO gel etc..?

I ask because I have never even seen fina or PLO gel. Not many cows in my area. I want to make a nice batch to test out.

MOO MOO MOO
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well let's see.. i take a pellet, crush it and grind it down as finely as i can.. then i take about 4 drops of alcohol (eyedropper drops) and dillute the powder into the alcohol. I then take a tsp of plo and mix in it to form a gel. Then i apply it to where it is needed :)

Since you are a man, you will probably triple that dosage, so measurements will change, but the idea and instructions are the same :)

You may also be able to find even more information on gotfina.com

good luck sweetie
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Dial_tone said:
What rate of absorption do you think you're getting with transdermal?
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i would say a 50% rate... it also depends on where i apply and if i sweat soon thereafter... but basically i would say 50%-70% at the most :)
 
I think if I am not mistaken but Chemo over at AM has stated that with DMSO that he gets about 30-40% with his homebrew transdermal mix but you can contact him to make sure.
 
She's NOT using DMSO so no need for her to ask Chem anything :D She's been doing this for a while now. There's absolutely no reason for her to make ANY adjustments.
 
Nubian Beauty I was answering the question on absorbtion rates. I was not suggesting she change a dang thing, but I don't think she is getting anywhere near a 50% absorbtion rate with transdermals.. at least we have not been able to figure it out at AM and Chemo does know his chemistry :D
Oh and it was Chemo as in Big Daddy Chemo not Chem from the researchkits place.. way different guys
 
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I know EXACTLY who you were referring too. But you did post DMSO and she is NOT using that. PERIOD. If I'm not mistaken DT asked her what kind of absorption rates does SHE THINK she's getting. This has been researched by her and myself extensively from someone that's just as knowledgeable if not MORE than Chemo. ;)
 
:rolleyes: LOL!! You have 3 posts... all of them in this thread and you have been registered since 2/13 so you haven't been participating anyway.
 
No not really I kinda hang out and mod over at Anabolic Minds takes alittle bit of my time.. sorry.. notice you don't have a ton of posts on this board either..
 
Nubian, there really is no need to flame someone just beause their opinion disagrees with yours. Using alcohol as a transdermal carrier is DOCCUMENTED at around a 10-15% absorption. Thats IT.

Matthew was simply trying to give you some advice. When the day comes any of us stop trying to learn, that is the day we stop growing. Post counts do not tell the entire story. He happens to be an admin (as do I) at one of the more scientifically based sites on the net. As we often state, "In God we trust, everyone else needs scientific backup and proof" Can you show me ONE study showing alcohol getting 50+% as a transdermal carrier? If so, I would LOVE to see it, because it will really revolutionize transdermal carriers and we will be well on our way to making pinning obsolete!


I am honestly not trying to start a flame war here, I am just suggesting you could be a bit more open minded about differing opinions, especially when they are doccumented. Don't you think if plain alcohol gave a 50% absorption, drug companies would be using it for a lot more than steroid products? The truth is, it doesnt come close to 50%
 
Not even close is right. Even with DMSO your not going to get better than 40%. 50-70% is really quite laughable. Nothing personal Nubian but that was not neccessary and completely unfounded.
 
supergirl said:
i would say a 50% rate... it also depends on where i apply and if i sweat soon thereafter... but basically i would say 50%-70% at the most :)
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With all due respect supergirl, the highest absorption you can realistically obtain with this straightforward transdermal gel is around 15%-20%. Ie if you use 200mg, you would likely get the result similar to injecting 30-40mg ED.

If you can show some valid evidence to contradict me, I will believe your 50% claim. Until then, I have empirical evidence backing me, you have theory :)

Just because someone states 50% does not mean your mix can deliver that. You still have to prove it.
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If I'm not mistaken DT asked her what kind of absorption rates does SHE THINK she's getting. This has been researched by her and myself extensively from someone that's just as knowledgeable if not MORE than Chemo. ;)
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Any proof of this? Anyone who honestly believes they are MORE knowledgeable in this field than Chemo is in bad need of a reality check.
 
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NubianBeauty said:
I know EXACTLY who you were referring too. But you did post DMSO and she is NOT using that. PERIOD. If I'm not mistaken DT asked her what kind of absorption rates does SHE THINK she's getting. This has been researched by her and myself extensively from someone that's just as knowledgeable if not MORE than Chemo. ;)
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For the sake of sound knowledge propogating through the underground there must be a few particulars discussed here.

First, Plo-gel is an effective penetration enhancing system but is not entirely user friendly since a fresh batch must be mixed on each application. In addition, it usually requires a script to obtain (unless you have better friends than I do).

Second, the preparation method presented will provide no more than 10-15% absorption AT BEST due to using the esterfied modification of the tren molecule. If you want to maximize the partitioning I would suggest saponifying the ester first. Please extend an open invitation to your knowledgeable friend to come and discuss this topic and explain to everyone how they can push that ester throught the SC layer since that is a revolutionary discovery.

Third, if you have truly done your research on penetration enhancers you no doubt know the power of DMSO to disrupt the SC and impart a tremendous partitioning. Although it would not best be employed in a localized manner it is nonetheless a viable carrier escpecially in light of the esterfied modification.

Chemo
 
OMG!! LMFAO!! He wasted badwidth by starting a thread in the Mod forum for little ol' me?!! :D Got you all to take the time to register, activate your accounts for little ol' me?! Bwhahahaha!! WARDOG I did not flame him. I was simply stating that she did not ask anyone for their input. If she think she's getting 50-70% absorption but is not, so what?! What does that have to do with you?! This shit is so hilarious. What's wrong with you guys? I would not even waste my time asking someone to come over here to dispute anything any of you have to say because it's just elementary. LOL!
 
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BTW... I never said I thought she was getting 50-70% absorption rates... she did. I never said the person that helped us with this said it either. :D
 
OK...I am not going into absorption rates, for that's Supes area. I have stated on many of the boards where I have gotten into "discussions" over this very same topic. I think everyone is on it and is having some sort of rage...LMAO:D

Well, I inject into my inner and outer calves and rotate upward to the biceps. Don't get me wrong, I would love to shoot my fat ass, lol...but seeing how I measure and shoot with a slin pin, that's unacceptable IMO.

Moving on...Now, in a female perspective, I am taking an extremely minimal amount to what you bro's take. I am 5mg(my tren is 100mg/ml) EOD inject. Carry on, bash me, whatever you want to do...wherever the inject has been made, there has been localized hardness. Now, I am not just talking injection puffiness...I am talking a good amount of hardness. Hell, I used to have bloated calves and that's no lie:40oz: Now, they are NICE;) Just started with the bi shots this week...So, I have 1.5 weeks left with this tren.

It should be ran low at intervals of 4 weeks on and 4 off to avoid all these negative things. I am very feminine, gentlemen...And above all...NOT TO BE USED BY NEWBIES.....

I have experiemented and this is where I am at...I have tried it in the past and did not like those sides...now, I have been at this rate for 2.5 weeks with nothing unfavorable. I have experienced a decrease in sex drive...NOW THAT'S UNFORTUNATE...

Good day and I hope this remains civil:devil2:
 
Actually, NB by taking the stance you did you gave the APPEARANCE that you agreed with the statement of getting 50-70% on absorption rates.. btw what made you think I started a thread on AM about it?
 
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