Trenbolone Enanthate Insomnia

[My_Pitch27]

Yeah... Way to soon to be thinking about running tren. You still have to run a read-only cycle and then a Test+Deca cycle before you even think about touching tren.

im going to run a test deca cycle in sept.
500mg test
600mg deca?
adex
hcg
hgh

sound about right?

 

[My_Pitch27]

mate, to jump into a cycle with tren without even doing a test cycle properly? bad idea. Go hit test only or test deca and enjoy the fun. Tren is some annoying stuff that can mess with your brain, but you run it when out of other options because it's so damn powerful. In your case you have lots of other options remaining

thanks for the tip on the test deca cycle i just ordered some nandrolone deca...gona run it in mid sept. after i lean out some more.

 

[My_Pitch27]

bump

 

[Megatron28]

im going to run a test deca cycle in sept.
500mg test
600mg deca?
adex
hcg
hgh

sound about right?

Where is the Dopamine Agonist?

How much adex? When you ran your abbreviated test-only cycle, what did you learn about how much AI you need for that dose? Or did you not go through this learning process? And how much will you bump up your AI dose for the Deca which aromatizes (but at a lower rate than test).

 

[Gainjin260]

thanks for the tip on the test deca cycle i just ordered some nandrolone deca...gona run it in mid sept. after i lean out some more.

I say run a test only cycle in September or when you've got your TRT dialed in, whichever comes first. Don't be so anxious to jump on multiple compounds. You've got you're whole life to experiment.

 

[cbburrr]

Just a friendly heads up, deca cycles are notorious for being hard to recover natty test level after. There are metabolites in deca that linger for months, and for lots of dudes keep them shut down after PCT.

A deca cycle is what nudged me past the recovery point and had me on TRT, still am.

 

[bigben66]

so half a cycle under my belt. but educating myself on new compounds and cycles.

Forget 'new cycles and compounds' - and get used to cycling just the base compound first!

 

[Megatron28]

Just a friendly heads up, deca cycles are notorious for being hard to recover natty test level after. There are metabolites in deca that linger for months, and for lots of dudes keep them shut down after PCT.

A deca cycle is what nudged me past the recovery point and had me on TRT, still am.

Nandrolone metabolites are not the reason for poor recovery after a cycle.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Where is the Dopamine Agonist?

How much adex? When you ran your abbreviated test-only cycle, what did you learn about how much AI you need for that dose? Or did you not go through this learning process? And how much will you bump up your AI dose for the Deca which aromatizes (but at a lower rate than test).

hi mega-

ive got my trt dialed in already so im feeling confident in that sector... i learned my body needs higher amounts of adex to avoid sides. i aromatize more than most i think. i was thinking of starting out at .5mg 3x week and bumping it up to 4 if things get hectic... i dont have to run a deca /test cycle in sept. but i would like to run some cycle in sept. i guess the only other option is test only...

 

[My_Pitch27]

I say run a test only cycle in September or when you've got your TRT dialed in, whichever comes first. Don't be so anxious to jump on multiple compounds. You've got you're whole life to experiment.

TRT is dialed in. 100mg 2x week, hcg 500iu 2x week, .25mg adex 2x week.....has me flowing good... i feel great at this dose and i have no sides that i can think of. i want to run some cycle in sept,.... so if i dont do the test/deca ill do test only and see how that fairs... i just wana be a big boy and have some fun on compounds...lol.... i suppose i get ahead of myself sometimes and try to take on too much.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Just a friendly heads up, deca cycles are notorious for being hard to recover natty test level after. There are metabolites in deca that linger for months, and for lots of dudes keep them shut down after PCT.

A deca cycle is what nudged me past the recovery point and had me on TRT, still am.

im on TRT so that wont matter to me... thanks tho

 

[My_Pitch27]

Forget 'new cycles and compounds' - and get used to cycling just the base compound first!

thanks for the advice i appreciate the concern.

 

[Megatron28]

hi mega-

ive got my trt dialed in already so im feeling confident in that sector... i learned my body needs higher amounts of adex to avoid sides. i aromatize more than most i think. i was thinking of starting out at .5mg 3x week and bumping it up to 4 if things get hectic... i dont have to run a deca /test cycle in sept. but i would like to run some cycle in sept. i guess the only other option is test only...

I would recommend test only.

What is your body fat %? That is a lot of adex.

 

[My_Pitch27]

I would recommend test only.

What is your body fat %? That is a lot of adex.

i think my bf is between 10-15%.... not 100% sure but would estimate...
i can see my abs so i guess that tells me something.

 

[My_Pitch27]

funny thing, they sent me test enanthate instead of tren enanthate... lol... guess def no tren for this boy...

 

[Onk]

funny thing, they sent me test enanthate instead of tren enanthate... lol... guess def no tren for this boy...

and test is like 1/2 the price, depending on the lab. I'd be wanting money back or more product for that stuff up

 

[My_Pitch27]

and test is like 1/2 the price, depending on the lab. I'd be wanting money back or more product for that stuff up

i emailed them and told them what happened and they r sending out two tren enth out on monday free of charge... talk about customer service1

 

[AgeisjustaNumber]

Interesting reading. Sound good advice given. My 2 cents...skip tren for now. Get the " i got scared at nipples issue" out of your history with aas. ie: do a 16 week test only and a solid recovery cycle. Get 3J's to help you drop the body fat. Then, maybe think about deca...masteron/tren..or any orals...
Best of luck.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Interesting reading. Sound good advice given. My 2 cents...skip tren for now. Get the " i got scared at nipples issue" out of your history with aas. ie: do a 16 week test only and a solid recovery cycle. Get 3J's to help you drop the body fat. Then, maybe think about deca...masteron/tren..or any orals...
Best of luck.

thanks for your advice. i appreciate every piece... thanks bro

 

[My_Pitch27]

Interesting reading. Sound good advice given. My 2 cents...skip tren for now. Get the " i got scared at nipples issue" out of your history with aas. ie: do a 16 week test only and a solid recovery cycle. Get 3J's to help you drop the body fat. Then, maybe think about deca...masteron/tren..or any orals...
Best of luck.

im on trt so i wouldnt need to do a pct i would just go back to my trt dose. corrrect?